Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Again, Phorm lie. It is possible with their system, but they have told us they won't do this. (won't, not can't). All we need to do is trust them on this. Trust? A company whose PR team are compulsive liers? |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
PhormPRTeam Watch:
They were at it again here: http://www.broadbandgenie.co.uk/broa...academics-say/ I have just posted a comment in reply and its waiting for moderation right now. |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Just had a reply to the email side of my DPA notice.
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Slightly OT
I've just had a look at the European Digital Rights site, and I found an article that has me a bit worried, as it sets a precedent:
http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number5...nch-isp-piracy - surely it contravenes EU privacy laws...and if it doesn't, why not? How long before our lot start doing that? In fact, they pretty much have, haven't they? I submit that all the online piracy in the world will not do as much harm in the long run as what our governments are doing to their own citizens. Trust is as easy to shatter as it is hard to earn. Unless they change their ways, the only two futures open to us that I can see are widespread spontaneous rebellion (it'd have to be spontaneous because if it were planned, they'd know about it...) or an Orwellian state. We could really use Hari Seldon and psychohistory about now... The thought occurs: aren't government officials worried about their privacy? Aren't banks and online stores worried about what this might mean to their business? As always, I note I do not intend to disappear from public view any time in the near future - well, only for a few days (if the Phorm deal goes ahead) while I sort out a new ISP. :rolleyes: |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
thats french ISP piracy directive based on ,i assume the same Belgian courts decision as below.
our fight is based on our data, our copright... i also found hours ago, this irish related ISP piracy http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number6...-isp-filtering that lead to this http://www.digitalrights.ie/2008/03/...is-a-bad-idea/ were it gives some costs and other information we might take note of in the 'profiling for profit' fight. |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/deta...ommunity&it=le
So 38% of Phorm investors also have shares in Northern Rock. Canny lot. |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Come on people, get there and slap Phorm down! The more people put them down on every appearance they try and make the more people will realise what a scam outfit Phorm is. |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/ No shareholder details though. I don't know if any of the 'paid-for' services will access the shareholder register. Certainly for a private ltd company, the shareholder details have to be returned to Companies House. I don't know about public ones. Also, the parent is American, so I don't know how that affects things. I'll try to find out more. |
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hmm , do we have yet another bit of legislation to add to the DPA ,RIPA,Copyright already considered.
or is that just for the irish law, is there also an english or UK wide version. http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1983/...#zza24y1983s98 Postal and Telecommunications Services Act, 1983 Prohibition on interception of telecommunications messages. 98.—(1) A person who— ( a ) intercepts or attempts to intercept, or ( b ) authorises, suffers or permits another person to intercept, or ( c ) does anything that will enable him or another person to intercept, telecommunications messages being transmitted by the company or who discloses the existence, substance or purport of any such message which has been intercepted or uses for any purpose any information obtained from any such message shall be guilty of an offence. (2) Subsection (1) shall not apply to any person who is acting— ( a ) (i) for the purpose of an investigation by a member of the Garda SÃÂÂ*ochána of a suspected offence under section 13 of the Post Office (Amendment) Act, 1951 (which refers to telecommunications messages of an obscene, menacing or similar character) on the complaint of a person claiming to have received such a message, or (ii) in pursuance of a direction issued by the Minister under section 110, or (iii) under other lawful authority, or ( b ) in the course of and to the extent required by his operating duties or duties for or in connection with the installation or maintenance of a line, apparatus or equipment for the transmission of telecommunications messages by the company. ( 3 ) ( a ) The company may, with the consent of the Minister, make regulations to carry out the intentions of this section in so far as concerns members of its staff. ( b ) The Minister, after consultation with the company, may direct the company to make regulations under paragraph (a) or to amend or revoke regulations made under that paragraph and the company shall comply with that direction. ( c ) A person who contravenes any regulation under this subsection shall be guilty of an offence. ( 4 ) ( a ) The Minister may make regulations prohibiting the provision or operation of overhearing facilities in relation to any apparatus (including private branch telephone exchanges) connected to the network of the company otherwise than in accordance with such conditions as he considers to be reasonable and prescribes in the regulations. ( b ) A person who contravenes any regulation under this subsection shall be guilty of an offence. (5) In this section, "interception" means listening to, or recording by any means, or acquiring the substance or purport of, any telecommunications message without the agreement of the person on whose behalf that message is transmitted by the company and of the person intended by him to receive that message. " |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Oh, sure, on the surface, it may appear that our internet experience hasn't changed when we opt-out of Phorm (after all, we'll still get the pages we asked for, and no Phorm targeted ads), but behind the scenes, all of our web browsing is still being re-routed through the profilers (and no, I don't care that you promise "not to relay any information outside the VM network") Stop treating your customers like mugs: we realise that you intend to still profile our data even if we "opt-out" and even if you honour your claim not to pass profile information on to Phorm, you can still quite easily use that information for other "internal" purposes, and I do not agree to my data being used in any such way. |
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