Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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shame MrA doesnt post here anymore since he moved ISP, he would have done us proud with his massive skills, are you reading MrA, come back , funny how we havent seen any more legally trained people in any of the threads so far. never a (specialist DPA/RIPA/UK/EU/LOADS MORE...) lawyer around when you need one ....;) |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I can really recommend looking at the link to the BBC provided by PAYNEARDO.
The replies nicely try to sidestep or confuse about who owns what and what is passed to whom regarding the profiler. No real answers though. These people must truly think we are all stupid and will be be confused by claiming who owns what and what will be passed on to where as though it means anything other than a poor attempt to confuse. Subject to change I currently believe that the profiler which belongs to the ISP (guess they bought it) only contacts Phorm in its many guises when you allow adverts from their paid up sites. I believe that whether you opt in or out you are mirrored to the profiler and always will be but as that belongs to the ISP, Phorm washes their hands of it even though they wrote the software and will need to monitor software performance etc. Of course they need to do what has to done with the software and no more caring a way could be but to do that in real time (maybe). The question I posed about a total by-pass (on this forum) was answered with the party line of it belongs to the ISP (furiously washing hands). You all must read the last paragraph (BBC link) when a question was asked with legal implications. It is like a malfunctioning robot... drop interactive mode and go into script mode. So funny ;) BTW They have changed many of their sites around from last week and stopped serving cookies from all bar one site that I visited today. They are adopting a very very low profile which is surprising for a profiling company ;) |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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go through the WHOLE thread, its full of interesting related stuff and probably the only one that covers a lot of other sites comments etc. and its growing by the day, as many of those other sites users seem to be joining here as we place links all over the place referencing the good stuff. |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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http://www.captain.at/howto-php-sessions.php |
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This thread is certainly one of the first links I give to people now when discussing phorm. |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Perhaps a refresher on cookies and session state would be in order : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_cookie |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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This has NEVER happened to me before (Ive been a customer for 4 years, EX Telewest) but it's happenig all the time now. |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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its up to each person to decide that, as it may stop the offshore CCare etc, and so force it back to the UK. but it might also make some so called jobswerth employee inside the ISP or whatever trying to kick you as they take it personally and dont understand the DPA act , then you need to go to the trouble of getting the courts involved etc. |
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:shocked: I think its a good thing to monitor though at some point we will find them be able to help block them. One thing PHORM done is made me 400% more vigilant. I seriously more aware of the junk put in my tempory internet folder. |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie An Effective, Low-Cost Solution To Combating Mind-Control " seems to give you all the info you might want, but no smiley. http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=4182&page=2 a user there gives you this https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/03/11.gif but im not sure its suitable as they obviously have the directional Wifi extension and we dont know if it tunes to the wireless community Phorm Mesh network :angel: http://search.virginmedia.com/result...hat+smiley+&cr= |
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May well have already been mentioned, but has anyone else had a look at webwise.com, & found some bits as laughable as I do?
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See how they lead with "in response to consumers’ growing concerns and frustrations with the Internet" and then "Webwise can help protect you from fraudulent “phishing” websites that may put your financial and personal data at risk", before finally mentioning, in a kind of "oh, by the way..." that "It also helps reduce the number of irrelevant, untargeted ads you see.". When surely the primary purpose of it is MONEY for Phorm & the ISPs, with this whole phishing thing just some sugar-coating, to make it look like there's a real benefit for the customers. |
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I've actually had a reply, and when I get to a scanner, I will post it. |
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Well I haven't posted much on here and only checked the forums today to see if there was any more gossip on 50Mb :p:
I've asked the on-line providers of credit cards and banking I use how they feel about the potential man-in-the-middle attack opportunity that this "Phorm" nonsense represents, given that one of the people at the helm of the company involved is a known spyware author. We'll see :rolleyes: Hopefully, me pointing out that I don't feel I can trust a "session key" when the login page contents are easily obtainable via a potential (inevitable?) man-in-the-middle attack might help. However, I suspect they'll tell me to make sure I have all the latest updates/service packs etc. installed and to reboot my computer if I have any concerns though :mad: Back to paper cheque thingies and queuing up for me I fear :shocked: Dave |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
"For the record that letter was in fact first posted on Cable Forum....
...I've actually had a reply, and when I get to a scanner, I will post it." good on you Rob, well done ;) 0=]:-) http://media.bigoo.ws/content/smile/...racter_178.gif i dont know how i missed that http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34492295-post128.html not been reading/helping on the site as often as i used to as you might guess looking at the almost unread 'in the news' and other threads i used to try and keep up to date... http://www.rankmytattoos.com/f/thumb...3806582357.jpghttps://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/03/40.jpghttp://www.cafepress.com/raven1/522681 |
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