Originally Posted by Tharrick (Post 34576430)

I've just installed firefox 3, and found that it refuses to allow me to install the dephormation plugin as it 'does not provide secure updates'

Originally Posted by Tharrick (Post 34576430)

I've just installed firefox 3, and found that it refuses to allow me to install the dephormation plugin as it 'does not provide secure updates'

Originally Posted by Dephormation (Post 34576429)

I can't help but wonder if there is a PR feint going on here, to test and measure public resistance (they've done this a few times over the last few months).

Originally Posted by Florence (Post 34576456)

I just wonder if this is Firefox'x way to beat the phorm as all updates if not https would be mirrored by phorm this way phorm shouldnt see the script... Nice one firefox thinking ahead beat us on that one :D

What I really do hope is something goes badly wrong with Phorm equipment a datacentre fire, explosion power outage would be good. I also hope all Government MP's do understanf IT better than they have shown recently since they are playing with fire allowing this to continue. Lambs to slaughter comes to mind.

Originally Posted by Dephormation (Post 34576434)

It can be done, sadly the details you need are not available from the dephormation.org.uk site at present.

Dephormation is currently offline in protest against the ICO failure to prosecute BT. I'll bring it back up immediately if BT do announce a trial.

In the event a trial does take place (which I doubt) Dephormation is not going to give you any worthwhile protection.

Firstly, the opt out method may have changed. Secondly, even if you do opt out it seems you are profiled anyway (but not served ads). And thirdly if you do opt out and BT ignore your decision who will you complain to? The ICO?

The only sensible option you have is moving to a better Internet Service Provider who respects your basic requirement for privacy, security, and integrity of communication services.

Google cache with instructions for FF3 is here.

Originally Posted by Tarquin L-Smythe (Post 34576442)

There are still a few of us with Bt and being not so tech wise would like to know how to check and report back so in the event of the trial starting we can have a little data to hand

Originally Posted by Dephormation (Post 34576463)

Dephormation will be back shortly :) it can quickly and easily log fake cookie handling and unexpected redirects. Drop me a PM with your email if you're keen to have it now.

Originally Posted by SelfProtection (Post 34576459)

The Problem with the suggested type of workaround is that Firefox 3 would then be vulnerable to possible exploitation via all other unsecured plugins.

Originally Posted by Dephormation (Post 34576470)

I've a dilemma here. Because if you believe you have any worthwhile protection when using Dephormation, you've completely misunderstood what Phorm are doing.

In other words, it would risk giving non-tech users a false sense of security if they use it as a security/privacy protection measure. If you feel somewhat insecure while Phorm is on your connection, IMHO you're in the right frame of mind.

I'm not going for an ego trip, or mass appeal. In fact, I'm stunned and humbled by the numbers of people who've downloaded it. 30,000+ when I last checked. It was never my intention to provide a crutch to make Phorm somehow acceptable.

OTOH I can see there's a demand for Dephormation as an analysis tool too. Let me find out about the costs involved. I may need to start asking for small donations to keep it going.

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On other thought (and I'll shut up) that hasn't had a lot of consideration is this.

If Phorm ever became established, with its ridiculous cookie based opt out... You would find yourself in the potentially invidious position of buying your right to privacy back. You'd need a suite of add ons to ensure your ISP was aware of your preference to opt out. Add ons for IE, add ons for FF, add ons for MS Office, add ons for Open Office.

Of course, that would all assume the honest endeavor of the ISP.

I don't object to buying anti-virus, on the presumption that the crooks who create viruses go to jail when caught.

I do object to buying software to retain my rights, given the evidence that people who take those rights away illegally do so with the endorsement of the Home Office, ICO, and UK Government.

That's yet another reason why it must never be allowed to happen.

Rant over. I'll shuddup now.

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff (Post 34576382)

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