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Spitfire16 25-02-2021 14:04

Check my levels please
 
Hello ,

I seem to have an intermittent connection with Several T3 timeouts on the upstream and several loss of synchronisation.

I have had a technician come out to me and he checks the connection and says everything is fine and then leaves, I have attached my logs below , I draw your attention to the T3 Timeouts on all the upstream channels and the Loss of synchronisation errors.

is there something you can spot that is wrong with my connection?

I have rebooted my router so the data is recent over 48 hrs , if you can spot anything I will give virgin a call

Thanks in advanced

Downstream bonded channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
1 330750000 3.7 40 256 qam 25
2 258750000 1.7 40 256 qam 16
3 266750000 2 40 256 qam 17
4 274750000 2.2 40 256 qam 18
5 282750000 2.5 40 256 qam 19
6 290750000 2.5 40 256 qam 20
7 298750000 3 40 256 qam 21
8 306750000 3.4 40 256 qam 22
9 314750000 3.5 40 256 qam 23
10 322750000 3.5 40 256 qam 24
11 370750000 3.2 40 256 qam 26
12 378750000 3.2 40 256 qam 27
13 386750000 3.2 40 256 qam 28
14 394750000 3 40 256 qam 29
15 402750000 3.2 40 256 qam 30
16 410750000 3.2 40 256 qam 31
17 418750000 3.2 40 256 qam 32
18 426750000 3.2 40 256 qam 33
19 434750000 3 40 256 qam 34
20 442750000 3.2 40 256 qam 35
21 450750000 3.2 40 256 qam 36
22 458750000 3 40 256 qam 37
23 466750000 2.9 40 256 qam 38
24 474750000 3 40 256 qam 39


Downstream bonded channels
Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
1 Locked 40.3 240988 37091
2 Locked 40.3 173435 11479
3 Locked 40.3 157900 11853
4 Locked 40.3 158394 12094
5 Locked 40.3 148278 12064
6 Locked 40.3 287202 56902
7 Locked 40.3 344004 53835
8 Locked 40.9 303861 49391
9 Locked 40.9 310022 49563
10 Locked 40.9 353433 54189
11 Locked 40.9 348136 100188
12 Locked 40.3 370075 74433
13 Locked 40.9 331510 55232
14 Locked 40.3 341974 50651
15 Locked 40.3 352666 50045
16 Locked 40.3 363907 46899
17 Locked 40.9 331309 44520
18 Locked 40.3 330636 41692
19 Locked 40.9 324051 38570
20 Locked 40.3 285019 33751
21 Locked 40.9 283561 34413
22 Locked 40.3 271496 31619
23 Locked 40.3 272729 33721
24 Locked 40.3 240753 31483

Upstream bonded channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
1 60300075 42.8 5120 64 qam 1
2 39400000 41.3 5120 64 qam 4
3 46200000 42.8 5120 64 qam 3
4 53700000 42.8 5120 64 qam 2


Upstream bonded channels
Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
1 ATDMA 0 0 1 0
2 ATDMA 0 0 1 0
3 ATDMA 0 0 2 0
4 ATDMA 0 0 2 0


Network Log
Time Priority Description
25/02/2021 12:50:27 critical SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
25/02/2021 11:26:48 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
25/02/2021 11:05:0 critical No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
25/02/2021 08:59:8 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
25/02/2021 08:52:40 critical SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
25/02/2021 06:53:53 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
25/02/2021 05:33:12 critical No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
25/02/2021 03:08:49 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
25/02/2021 02:58:55 critical SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
25/02/2021 02:39:32 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
25/02/2021 01:28:22 critical SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
24/02/2021 19:36:58 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
24/02/2021 19:34:29 critical No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
24/02/2021 19:27:16 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
24/02/2021 19:08:11 critical No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
24/02/2021 14:40:9 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
24/02/2021 13:44:23 critical SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
24/02/2021 08:41:53 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
24/02/2021 08:05:39 critical SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
24/02/2021 07:44:36 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

raging bull 25-02-2021 15:08

Re: Check my levels please
 
First thing I can see is there looks to be a SNR problem!
Look down both columns Pre RS Errors/ Post RS Errors.
Normally Post RS Errors go down to 0 after a reboot, increasing over a short period is signs of problems.
The bad news is if SNR problems confirmed this at times becomes a thanklesss job finding where the problem lies. (Engineers problem)

RichardCoulter 25-02-2021 17:09

Re: Check my levels please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raging bull (Post 36071942)
First thing I can see is there looks to be a SNR problem!
Look down both columns Pre RS Errors/ Post RS Errors.
Normally Post RS Errors go down to 0 after a reboot, increasing over a short period is signs of problems.
The bad news is if SNR problems confirmed this at times becomes a thanklesss job finding where the problem lies. (Engineers problem)

Does this suggest that it's prudent to do a reboot every so often to get back to zero?

Msh 25-02-2021 18:10

Re: Check my levels please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36071961)
Does this suggest that it's prudent to do a reboot every so often to get back to zero?

Personally, I collect those values very frequently. Then apply a derivative function on top to get the value per second. So it's not entirely necessary for those values to be low to be useful.

Spitfire16 25-02-2021 18:50

Re: Check my levels please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raging bull (Post 36071942)
First thing I can see is there looks to be a SNR problem!
Look down both columns Pre RS Errors/ Post RS Errors.
Normally Post RS Errors go down to 0 after a reboot, increasing over a short period is signs of problems.
The bad news is if SNR problems confirmed this at times becomes a thanklesss job finding where the problem lies. (Engineers problem)

Could this be why all the technician's say everything fine and just leave and don't bother to investigate ?

Does anyone know if virgin have senior technicians you can request to visit your CAB and actually fault find?

RichardCoulter 25-02-2021 18:51

Re: Check my levels please
 
Ok, thanks.

raging bull 25-02-2021 22:16

Re: Check my levels please
 
It's knowing what course to take, chance a call @08.00 and hope you speak to someone who can organise a tech, post on the Virgin Community website to get an opinion or even wait here for a more knowledgeable person on this site?

General Maximus 26-02-2021 18:51

Re: Check my levels please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitfire16 (Post 36071993)
Does anyone know if virgin have senior technicians you can request to visit your CAB and actually fault find?

The tech who visits you should do that anyway. They have a checklist they have got to work through and even if they think they have fixed the fault in your house they have still got to go to your cabinet, check the connections and the power levels coming down the cable. If he cannot locate the fault he then needs to investigate higher up the network and escalate to the networks teams if applicable. Have you checked the coax cable coming into your house and going into the shub to make sure it is fitted securely and no damange?

Those pre and post rs errors are a big problem and you need to get them back out to look at them. When they come round show them the stats and it will give them some motivation to get it fixed. If they can see you are on the internet and can get to google for example they'll think everything is ok. It might also be worth setting up a ping monitor as well to see how much packet loss you are getting.

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broad...toring/quality


Spitfire16 26-02-2021 20:53

Re: Check my levels please
 
Thanks All,

This is today's graph,

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broad...bae18ea15f7ef1

this was yesterdays,

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broad...b02-25-02-2021

I currently have a thread open on the Virgin Media official forums about my issues , the last technician did say there was a lot of water in the local cabinet and would report this to networks but I've yet to hear anything back , what does my pre/post errors actually point to (ie is it noise?) so when the technician comes I can show him , last technician i had out checked my cable -> CAB and they go to the cab and check it to my house from the cab and can't find anything , can they check my cable from the CAB -> House or can they test the network CAB -> Local node and the local area/network

Can i actually go to networks directly as I've already had 2 technicians out? is there a senior technician I can request to visit ?

They show me on there phone a page showing loads of different graphs what they say is the network in my area and saying its all in sync and my modem is following the network?!?!

My thread I have on the Virgin Media forum is below , just awaiting a reply , if your on there can you comment on it so a VM staffer can see it ?


https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...am/m-p/4623560

General Maximus 28-02-2021 18:33

Re: Check my levels please
 
If you need to book a 3rd tech out you can tell them you want to put in a complaint when you do it and you want somebody more senior to look at it (the principle technician). It isn't good enough to say that they can't find what is wrong. If they can't find a problem close to home then they need to be looking elsewhere or escalating it to someone who can. If they say they have checked and there isn't a problem on the network then you can tell them you want them to start swapping out equipment by process of elimination such as the cables, the connectors on the cables and the shub. Noise isn't the problem here, that would be reflected in some dodgy power levels, it is a dirty or faulty piece of equipment and could be something a trivial as a loose or dirty connector on the outside of your property but likewise in the cabinet.

If I were you I would clear those rs errors from the log and see how it goes over the next couple of days. If the cabinet has been report to networks it would have been sorted pronto and the weather has been nice over the weekend for it to dry out. I imagine they will have replace any wet connections so now is a good time to see if whatever they have done has fixed the problem. If not, make another phone call.

sollp 01-03-2021 18:16

Re: Check my levels please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36072159)
The tech who visits you should do that anyway. They have a checklist they have got to work through and even if they think they have fixed the fault in your house they have still got to go to your cabinet, check the connections and the power levels coming down the cable. If he cannot locate the fault he then needs to investigate higher up the network and escalate to the networks teams if applicable. Have you checked the coax cable coming into your house and going into the shub to make sure it is fitted securely and no damange?

Those pre and post rs errors are a big problem and you need to get them back out to look at them. When they come round show them the stats and it will give them some motivation to get it fixed. If they can see you are on the internet and can get to google for example they'll think everything is ok. It might also be worth setting up a ping monitor as well to see how much packet loss you are getting.

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broad...toring/quality


Check List:

1: R.A.F

The end

Spitfire16 04-03-2021 15:36

Re: Check my levels please
 
This is the state of play after the router Hub3 was rebooted yesterday , how are things looking?

System up time : 1 days 2h:52m:29s

Downstream bonded channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
1 330750000 4.5 40 256 qam 25
2 258750000 2.2 38 256 qam 16
3 266750000 2.7 38 256 qam 17
4 274750000 2.9 40 256 qam 18
5 282750000 3.2 40 256 qam 19
6 290750000 3.4 40 256 qam 20
7 298750000 3.9 38 256 qam 21
8 306750000 3.9 40 256 qam 22
9 314750000 4.3 40 256 qam 23
10 322750000 4.3 40 256 qam 24
11 370750000 4 40 256 qam 26
12 378750000 3.7 38 256 qam 27
13 386750000 4 40 256 qam 28
14 394750000 3.7 40 256 qam 29
15 402750000 3.9 38 256 qam 30
16 410750000 4 40 256 qam 31
17 418750000 3.9 40 256 qam 32
18 426750000 4 40 256 qam 33
19 434750000 3.9 40 256 qam 34
20 442750000 4.1 40 256 qam 35
21 450750000 4 40 256 qam 36
22 458750000 4 38 256 qam 37
23 466750000 3.9 38 256 qam 38
24 474750000 3.9 40 256 qam 39


Downstream bonded channels
Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
1 Locked 40.3 75271 10799
2 Locked 38.9 46557 923
3 Locked 38.9 47356 1027
4 Locked 40.3 42304 803
5 Locked 40.3 38895 1042
6 Locked 40.3 39682 809
7 Locked 38.9 50567 1089
8 Locked 40.3 44509 814
9 Locked 40.3 45637 1557
10 Locked 40.3 59594 4260
11 Locked 40.3 73916 22434
12 Locked 38.9 68905 9636
13 Locked 40.3 56802 4170
14 Locked 40.3 58192 2617
15 Locked 38.9 68936 2469
16 Locked 40.3 65822 2602
17 Locked 40.3 67847 2516
18 Locked 40.3 61722 3002
19 Locked 40.3 61379 2804
20 Locked 40.3 54798 2103
21 Locked 40.3 57576 1814
22 Locked 38.9 49509 1048
23 Locked 38.9 53446 1199
24 Locked 40.3 39097 1028

Upstream bonded channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
1 32600000 40.8 5120 64 qam 5
2 39400000 40.5 5120 64 qam 4
3 46200014 41.3 5120 64 qam 3
4 53699988 42.8 5120 64 qam 2


Upstream bonded channels
Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
1 ATDMA 0 0 2 0
2 ATDMA 0 0 2 0
3 ATDMA 0 0 0 0
4 ATDMA 0 0 1 0


Network Log
Time Priority Description
04/03/2021 15:32:16 notice LAN login Success;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/03/2021 14:10:37 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/03/2021 12:18:3 notice LAN login Success;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/03/2021 12:17:52 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/03/2021 12:17:35 notice LAN login Success;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/03/2021 10:08:11 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/03/2021 09:54:32 critical No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/03/2021 09:21:31 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/03/2021 09:00:9 critical SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/03/2021 08:38:15 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/03/2021 08:17:36 critical SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/03/2021 05:05:13 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/03/2021 04:40:42 critical No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
03/03/2021 17:25:14 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
03/03/2021 17:12:48 critical No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
03/03/2021 12:49:44 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
03/03/2021 12:42:30 critical No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
03/03/2021 12:39:32 notice Unit has been restored to factory defaults from a software issued command;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
03/03/2021 12:38:51 notice LAN login Success;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
03/03/2021 08:11:59 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=cxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

General Maximus 04-03-2021 17:46

Re: Check my levels please
 
It is getting worse because you are getting t3 timeouts across more upstream channels now. I firmly believe it is a cabling issue to you. To have those t3 time outs on the upstream and all those rs errors on each downstream channel there would have to be a major network fault which would affect loads of people and they would have picked up on it pronto and fixed it. Have you rebooked a tech visit yet?

Spitfire16 08-03-2021 15:17

Re: Check my levels please
 
Technician booked and is coming tomorrow between at 8AM-12PM

First call there automated tests wanted to reboot my router , 2nd call I spoke to someone and I explained I've had 2 pervious technicians out now and I requested a Principle technician and she was going to send a new router , she went away did a few checks while I was on hold for about 4 minutes , came back and booked a technician to visit.

My downstream/upstream stats after 5 hrs of uptime on the router , presume there still bad , my friend in Yorkshire who lives about an hour from me has a few weeks uptime on his Hub3 - Few hundred Pre RS Errors on all channels and no Post RS errors on all channels , is this what I'm aiming for?

Any ideas on what I say to the technician to help him , I haven't had the cable/equipment replaced in my house , do I explain what they have done in pervious visits or can he check on the pervious job sheets

are Technicians timed on jobs timed? i.e. they have a certain amount of time on a job?

Downstream bonded channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
1 330750000 4.3 40 256 qam 25
2 258750000 2.2 38 256 qam 16
3 266750000 2.5 38 256 qam 17
4 274750000 2.7 40 256 qam 18
5 282750000 3 40 256 qam 19
6 290750000 3.2 40 256 qam 20
7 298750000 3.7 38 256 qam 21
8 306750000 3.9 40 256 qam 22
9 314750000 4.1 40 256 qam 23
10 322750000 4.1 40 256 qam 24
11 370750000 4 40 256 qam 26
12 378750000 3.7 40 256 qam 27
13 386750000 3.9 40 256 qam 28
14 394750000 3.7 40 256 qam 29
15 402750000 3.7 38 256 qam 30
16 410750000 3.7 40 256 qam 31
17 418750000 3.7 40 256 qam 32
18 426750000 3.9 40 256 qam 33
19 434750000 3.7 40 256 qam 34
20 442750000 4 40 256 qam 35
21 450750000 3.7 40 256 qam 36
22 458750000 3.7 38 256 qam 37
23 466750000 3.5 38 256 qam 38
24 474750000 3.7 40 256 qam 39


Downstream bonded channels
Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
1 Locked 40.3 15478 2301
2 Locked 38.9 9369 155
3 Locked 38.9 9239 187
4 Locked 40.3 8982 222
5 Locked 40.3 8677 174
6 Locked 40.3 8503 117
7 Locked 38.9 11489 277
8 Locked 40.3 11046 168
9 Locked 40.9 10926 556
10 Locked 40.3 15443 867
11 Locked 40.3 15107 5797
12 Locked 40.3 17133 3316
13 Locked 40.3 14990 1427
14 Locked 40.3 15762 1336
15 Locked 38.9 15340 896
16 Locked 40.3 15755 1047
17 Locked 40.3 13842 865
18 Locked 40.3 14309 585
19 Locked 40.3 14008 507
20 Locked 40.3 13329 452
21 Locked 40.3 11222 427
22 Locked 38.9 9242 119
23 Locked 38.9 8783 183
24 Locked 40.3 7595 188

Upstream bonded channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
1 32599976 40.3 5120 64 qam 5
2 39400000 40.8 5120 64 qam 4
3 46199974 41.3 5120 64 qam 3
4 53700043 42.8 5120 64 qam 2


Upstream bonded channels
Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
1 ATDMA 0 0 0 0
2 ATDMA 0 0 0 0
3 ATDMA 0 0 0 0
4 ATDMA 0 0 0 0

Skie 08-03-2021 20:27

Re: Check my levels please
 
Show him your BQM graphs (might need to print it COVID social distancing and all!) and explain the inconsistency of it.

Tell him what has been replaced and what hasn't, and any fiddling you've done (ie, if you've swapped attenuators, swapped the modem onto the V6 cable to rule out a dodgy cable between the splitter and modem etc.)

I had really similar problems that ultimately took an amplifier replacement to sort. It takes a lot of browbeating to get them to look that far up the chain (or them replacing everything up to the tap, as was my case). Intermittent faults like this only get spotted by some customers, and VM's monitoring doesn't notice it as well as it should.

Hopefully your issue is just a damaged cable in your home or garden, and the engineer can put a new one in easily.

General Maximus 09-03-2021 09:43

Re: Check my levels please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitfire16 (Post 36073546)
are Technicians timed on jobs timed? i.e. they have a certain amount of time on a job?

they do have an allotted time because they obviously have to make another visits during the day however they are allowed ample time to investigate and repair your fault which includes a cup of tea/coffee and a chin wag.

As I mentioned before, his time also includes a trip to your street cab and checking the power levels at the tap point (which are very good). Show him the rs levels and tell him you can reset them now and they'll be in their hundreds again by the end of the day. It shouldn't be like that on every single channel and there can only be a a few reasons and explanations as to what is causing it. It is all about providing him with the information and data he needs to troubleshoot and make a definitive diagnosis.

raging bull 09-03-2021 10:39

Re: Check my levels please
 
From experience though when the problem is caused by another customer allowing a signal back onto the cable. Tracking down a wayword customer is a time consuming business!

Spitfire16 09-03-2021 11:59

Re: Check my levels please
 
Technician has been and gone , checked my line with his device , showed 5 graphs most of them amber or red in colour.

checked the cable coming into the house on both side of the wall , no problem

Made a call to networks who checked the cab and found no noise coming from the cab

he checked the CAB and confirmed a dodgy connection which he's fixed..

he confirmed Post RS should remain at 0 , said there was nothing more he could do , but said Virgin are delivering me a new router today , said to activate and try that and see how it goes

Quote:

Downstream bonded channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
1 330750000 3.7 40 256 qam 25
2 258750000 2 40 256 qam 16
3 266750000 2.5 40 256 qam 17
4 274750000 2.5 40 256 qam 18
5 282750000 2.9 40 256 qam 19
6 290750000 3 40 256 qam 20
7 298750000 3.4 40 256 qam 21
8 306750000 3.5 40 256 qam 22
9 314750000 3.7 40 256 qam 23
10 322750000 3.7 40 256 qam 24
11 370750000 3 40 256 qam 26
12 378750000 2.9 40 256 qam 27
13 386750000 2.7 40 256 qam 28
14 394750000 2.5 40 256 qam 29
15 402750000 2.5 40 256 qam 30
16 410750000 2.5 40 256 qam 31
17 418750000 2.5 40 256 qam 32
18 426750000 2.5 40 256 qam 33
19 434750000 2.4 40 256 qam 34
20 442750000 2.5 40 256 qam 35
21 450750000 2.2 40 256 qam 36
22 458750000 2.2 40 256 qam 37
23 466750000 2 38 256 qam 38
24 474750000 2 40 256 qam 39


Downstream bonded channels
Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
1 Locked 40.3 8558 798
2 Locked 40.3 5023 118
3 Locked 40.3 4951 33
4 Locked 40.9 4902 125
5 Locked 40.3 4579 111
6 Locked 40.3 5000 191
7 Locked 40.3 6488 173
8 Locked 40.3 5327 72
9 Locked 40.3 5909 81
10 Locked 40.3 8304 376
11 Locked 40.3 8746 2652
12 Locked 40.3 8879 1328
13 Locked 40.3 7327 681
14 Locked 40.3 7087 502
15 Locked 40.3 7665 348
16 Locked 40.3 8298 438
17 Locked 40.3 7204 687
18 Locked 40.3 8072 366
19 Locked 40.9 7772 402
20 Locked 40.3 6966 429
21 Locked 40.3 6107 103
22 Locked 40.3 5712 62
23 Locked 38.9 5061 147
24 Locked 40.3 3993 69
I think if the problem is still there is to open a complaint on the virgin media website

Spitfire16 09-03-2021 20:31

Re: Check my levels please
 
New router installed and activated - will post stats in the morning

General Maximus 14-03-2021 09:46

Re: Check my levels please
 
and........................

Spitfire16 17-03-2021 15:50

Re: Check my levels please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36074217)
and........................

Sorry , been busy recently,

They sent out a team manager/Leader who checked my connections and couldn't find anything wrong with it , he made a comment that post-rs colum tells you how many errors have been corrected , but did notice the cabinet needed rebalancing and he would ask networks to do it , a few hours later a noticed a VM network technician at my local cabinet who rebalanced it and i spoke to him and was very helpful confirmed that Post-RS Errors should be 0 or as close as they can get it

The stats are taken with 5 days of up time , We had a call a few days ago from a manager who we are phoning back

Downstream bonded channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
1 234750000 1.7 38 256 qam 13
2 138750000 4.3 40 256 qam 1
3 146750000 3.7 40 256 qam 2
4 154750000 3.7 38 256 qam 3
5 162750000 3.5 40 256 qam 4
6 170750000 3.5 40 256 qam 5
7 178750000 3.5 38 256 qam 6
8 186750000 3.4 38 256 qam 7
9 194750000 3.2 40 256 qam 8
10 202750000 2.9 38 256 qam 9
11 210750000 2.5 38 256 qam 10
12 218750000 2.2 40 256 qam 11
13 226750000 2.2 38 256 qam 12
14 242750000 1.4 38 256 qam 14
15 250750000 1.5 40 256 qam 15
16 258750000 1.4 38 256 qam 16
17 266750000 1.7 38 256 qam 17
18 274750000 1.9 38 256 qam 18
19 282750000 2 40 256 qam 19
20 290750000 2.2 40 256 qam 20
21 298750000 2.5 38 256 qam 21
22 306750000 2.7 40 256 qam 22
23 314750000 2.7 40 256 qam 23
24 322750000 2.7 40 256 qam 24


Downstream bonded channels
Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
1 Locked 38.9 515578 53183
2 Locked 40.3 463558 26970
3 Locked 40.3 530166 29744
4 Locked 38.9 509974 29716
5 Locked 40.3 491148 31791
6 Locked 40.3 527966 34670
7 Locked 38.9 592315 43373
8 Locked 38.9 582593 49408
9 Locked 40.3 538286 51068
10 Locked 38.9 532489 53279
11 Locked 38.9 529318 56295
12 Locked 40.3 478354 59516
13 Locked 38.9 558286 57434
14 Locked 38.9 441614 22675
15 Locked 40.3 323311 8218
16 Locked 38.9 286713 6648
17 Locked 38.6 281019 6535
18 Locked 38.9 315925 7509
19 Locked 40.3 302026 6572
20 Locked 40.3 276470 5945
21 Locked 38.9 369428 8786
22 Locked 40.3 355267 12208
23 Locked 40.3 376200 19936
24 Locked 40.3 439740 33460

Upstream bonded channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
1 32600000 40 5120 64 qam 5
2 39400000 40 5120 64 qam 4
3 46200000 41.5 5120 64 qam 3
4 53700000 41.5 5120 64 qam 2


Upstream bonded channels
Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
1 ATDMA 0 0 2 0
2 ATDMA 0 0 18 0
3 ATDMA 0 0 1 0
4 ATDMA 0 0 3 0

Still terrible? , does anyone on these forums work for virgin media?

General Maximus 17-03-2021 16:42

Re: Check my levels please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitfire16 (Post 36074574)
post-rs colum tells you how many errors have been corrected

Wrong, the post rs-errors column are the number or errors which remain after the shub has attempted to correct the errors. If for example you have 10 pre-errors and 3 post-errors, it means 7 were fixed and 3 remain. When this happens the post-errors are basically dead data and need to be re-transmitted again which means your data transfer takes longer because things are having to be sent twice. Mine are 0 across the board and a) you shouldn't have them across every single channel and b) not in the tens of thousands. You have also got T3 timeouts on every upstream channel.


When you ring them back tell them and ask them what they are going to do to fix it. If they give you some bullshit answer of "we have checked everything and are confused as you are" tell them they can start replacing everything starting with the cheapest thing first and working their way up until they find out what is causing it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitfire16 (Post 36074574)
Still terrible? , does anyone on these forums work for virgin media?

There are 5 people that I know of but I think only one of them will be able to help. I'll send him a pm and see what he thinks.

Spitfire16 17-03-2021 19:38

Re: Check my levels please
 
Thank you :) , at my request the last technician left me some replacement cable for inside the house , is it worth swapping the cable over and seeing if this makes a difference ?

It's got the connectors on it at both ends - Ready to go

pip08456 17-03-2021 19:52

Re: Check my levels please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitfire16 (Post 36074598)
Thank you :) , at my request the last technician did leave me some replacement cable for inside the house , is it swapping the cable over and seeing if this makes a difference ?

It's got the connectors on it at both ends - Ready to go

Put the cable in a drawer or cupboard and say nothing ablout it. It is not the issue. The engineer should sort out your problem when he comes.

Spitfire16 17-03-2021 20:14

Re: Check my levels please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36074600)
Put the cable in a drawer or cupboard and say nothing ablout it. It is not the issue. The engineer should sort out your problem when he comes.

Good Point - Thanks will do !

General Maximus 18-03-2021 09:45

Re: Check my levels please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitfire16 (Post 36074598)
at my request the last technician left me some replacement cable for inside the house

that is the kind of thing i was talking about when I said they should start swapping stuff out; the operative word being "they" and not you.


The VM guy I pm'd sends his apologies. He has reviewed all the info and can't do any more for you above what the techs have already done.

Sephiroth 20-03-2021 08:50

Re: Check my levels please
 
Silly little point: just make sure your coax cables are tightly fixed at both ends.

Also, is there a splitter inside the house? If so, tell us that everything's tightly connected, that any spare port on the splitter has a 75ohm terminator on it and we can take it from there.

japitts 22-03-2021 11:57

Re: Check my levels please
 
Have you tried posting on the VM Forums - https://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Speed/bd-p/Speed

Admittedly if a VM staffer on here has taken a look, that might be overlapping a little, but you never know.

Sephiroth 22-03-2021 12:47

Re: Check my levels please
 
The VM staffer(s) on here know a lot more than the VM bods on the community forum. But at least the VM bods can book an engineer - or at least they used to be able to.

japitts 22-03-2021 12:58

Re: Check my levels please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36074975)
The VM staffer(s) on here know a lot more than the VM bods on the community forum. But at least the VM bods can book an engineer - or at least they used to be able to.

It was the ability to pass things up the chain, that I was getting at.

No arguments with your point about the expertise on here, although it's not impossible to find that on the VM boards.


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