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cimt 19-03-2020 01:48
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I can see MS doing some sort of contract for it. i believe they do one for One X? Contract that includes console, gold and game pass

Stephen 19-03-2020 21:22
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They already announced it a while back. I think if you took out an S or X around the time they announced the series X, then you can take out the new console after 12 months or something.

Edit it's after 18 payments
https://www.xbox.com/en-GB/xbox-all-access

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.Upgrade to the next Xbox console
Enjoy the option to upgrade to the next Xbox console, Xbox Series X, after the equivalent of 18 payments. Get the Xbox Series X with a new Xbox All Access purchase from the same retail partner where you joined the program, and trade-in the console originally purchased with Xbox All Access

cimt 19-03-2020 21:52
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Ah I didn't see that bit. I can see a lot of people doing that method then as it will be a lot easier on the bank account.

SnoopZ 08-09-2020 09:41
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The Xbox Series S design and price got leaked so MS have made it official, the price is $299 and spec details will be released soon.

Both consoles will launch on November 10th and a finance plan is available according to Windows Central.
https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-...nally-revealed

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1599554337

SnoopZ 08-09-2020 10:13
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Pricing for UK is £249 Tweeted by MS.

cimt 08-09-2020 11:18
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They deffos leaked it on purpose. They want Sony to reveal their prices. Remember this gen? We had the prices ages in advance.

SnoopZ 08-09-2020 11:26
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Originally Posted by cimt (Post 36049047)
They deffos leaked it on purpose. They want Sony to reveal their prices. Remember this gen? We had the prices ages in advance.
That leak didn't go too well then as MS have also revealed the prices officially now too.

cheekyangus 08-09-2020 11:34
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36049051)
That leak didn't go too well then as MS have also revealed the prices officially now too.
May be part of the strategy.

Stephen 08-09-2020 12:07
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At £249 I'd definitely consider the series S

Some more details

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A full version of the earlier leaked teaser has now listed the console's technical specs as including support for 120FPS at 1440p, 4K upscaling for games, 4K media playback, support for DirectX raytracing, and a custom NVME 512GB SSD.

Oh, and the Series S is 60 per cent smaller than the X, so easier to fit under your TV.

SnoopZ 08-09-2020 12:41
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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36049060)
At £249 I'd definitely consider the series S

Some more details
Still wondering how Raytracing is possible on it with a far slower GPU and only 4GIG of ram.

Stephen 08-09-2020 13:40
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Still wondering how Raytracing is possible on it with a far slower GPU and only 4GIG of ram.
Apparently its 10GB of RAM Vs the 16GB on the Series X. Same CPU but slightly slower GPU. The fact it will run 1440p at up to 120fps and raytracing says to me its a fairly powerful little box

SnoopZ 08-09-2020 13:44
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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36049075)
Apparently its 10GB of RAM Vs the 16GB on the Series X. Same CPU but slightly slower GPU. The fact it will run 1440p at up to 120fps and raytracing says to me its a fairly powerful little box

Oh yeah I got that mixed up with GPU teraflops which is 4.

Stephen 08-09-2020 13:56
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Still for a ray tracing capable machine, able to do 1440p up to 120fps for only 249 is an absolute steal.

Stephen 09-09-2020 12:58
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From what I've been reading the Series S will do everything the Series X will do just at 1440p rather than 4K.

Saw this posted by a dev on reddit
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Graphics dev here, some notes about performance targeting that people might find useful.

It has been designed to match the graphical output in almost every way except output resolution, it still supports all the same GPU features, just targets a lower resolution and has lower memory bandwidth because its not needed.

You can take a game that is running at 4k on the series X and without any changes render at 1440p on a series S and be in the same ballpark of performance.

People here are correct that its not quite as simple as you have 33% of the flops, therefore, you can render 33% of the resolution. But as most games are very fillrate limited it is more like that than it used to be.

Also, they are correct that vram amounts and bandwidth matter, both of which are reduced for series S, however so are the texture sizes.

Assets for the series X package will be at the optimum resolution for a 4k native output, assets for the series S will be at the optimum resolution for a 1440p output, almost half the resolution!

This has 4 major effects,

Lower memory usage at runtime which is needed due to it having less memory.
Lower disk space consumed by a game (could be as much as 40% less) which is great because it has half the storage size.
Lower SSD bandwidth required (which is good because the SSD is also slower as it uses fewer channels to keep the price down)
Lower memory bandwidth required both for moving the textures and for simple fill operations.
So you can see that by scaling back the Ram size and speed, and SSD size and speed, and the GPU speed you end up with a console that can perfectly handle 1440p content as long as the content is mastered for a 1440p experience. This isn't as hard as you think as final output sizes for builds is done automatically by most content processing pipelines anyway.

SnoopZ 09-09-2020 13:02
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Latest leak is the expansion storage for the X will cost $220 for a 1TB drive.


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