Sir Keir’s Kerfuffle
Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader.
Angela Rayner elected as Deputy leader https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-52164158 |
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That's like 'Yeah whatever...' news.
Still Corbyn is gone and that is excellent news. |
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Yes well done sir posh bloke you're just what the poor and downtrodden need.
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About the same odds that many gave Boris on becoming PM then ;) |
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i expect a Labour leader to come fromt gutter,be dressed in rags and own at least one ferret,they must live in a council house and have been on benefits all of their adult life, ride an old bicycle in clogs and drink brown ale. oh and don't forget the flat cap and string vest. |
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.... not to mention Diane Abbot!
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Good luck to Starmer, although frankly he couldn't do any worse! |
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What's more, Boris should be able to wipe the floor with Starmer due to his undemocratic behaviour in the dark days of Brexit.
However, in the short term, parliamentary solidarity on Coronavirus is a requirement. |
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Never!!! ;) Boris's actions were unlawful, not illegal... |
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On your point about Boris, at least he tried to break the parliamentary deadlock (itself undemocratic in the context of the Referendum mandate) by a means he was advised would be lawful. Btw, Starmer's message on the stump was distinctly left wing and I'd be surprised if he now stands by that. |
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Bumbling stumbling stammering/stuttering Boris vs a Queen’s Counsel - I’m sure you’re right...
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The next PMQ will be a interesting watch.
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Regardless of his upbringing, he is a QC and a knight of the realm, who is also closely associated with Parliament’s perceived obstruction of Brexit throughout 2019. He will be a very tough sell on the doorsteps of northern England at the next election.
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You may well be right but the mood of politics can change a lot in 5 years don't you agree.
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We are still within the “5 year term” of David Cameron’s 2015 Government. |
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To me the liebour party died when they decided to block Brexit.
As stated I'll never vote for them again. I'm also backing Boris 100%. Whatever he does, or doesn't do he's going to get the blame. |
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In fact, things really don’t tend to change dramatically. Even the 1997 Labour landslide occurred after 18 years of Tory government, and Tony Blair’s major success was putting a fresh face on continuity. The Tories looked worn out, and out of ideas. Blair looked young and energetic but none of his new ideas actually changed very much; not in the first term anyway. British electoral history since WW2 suggests a majority the size Boris has now can be reduced by an effective Labour campaign in 2024 but Starmer has next to no chance of actually winning it. |
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Sad times in CCHQ with their multiple election-winner stepping down in favour of Sir Keir. ;)
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People will be reminded that starmer is a scumbag who happily tried to defy the will of the people. he aint no sir to me |
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The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Those who would never vote Labour anyway, still have their excuses for not doing so. |
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I haven’t seen it reported anywhere. |
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...w-cabinet-role ... and why shouldn't I raise this as often as context allows? |
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Starmer could probably live without all the antisemitism questions. That said, as the Chancellor is pretty much bankrolling the economy for the foreseeable, it'd be useful to keep some socialist faces around - they're the experts in the subject matter after all.
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Did you all notice? Starmer said that this isn't the time to play politics, cross-party cooperation must be the way forward. He promptly plays politics by saying prominently that the government has made serious mistakes. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52169648 Whether or not he is right or wrong, this is political games being played rather than getting down to cooperation with the Guvmin. Not surprising - he's got to bite on something but it's a pity. He could have said "I'm not going to attack the government for their handling of matters to date - I simply want to put the Labour party at the disposal of efforts to get rid of this disease". |
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What you are asking for is the opposition to simply stop and agree with everything the Government does regardless of how bad it may be. Sounds more communist than socialist now you phrase it like that. It can hardly be 'political games' to hold the Government to account during the biggest public health crisis of our lifetimes. |
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Most of the accusations about Saville came out after his death - here are the four that came out before his death. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...e-8447827.html Quote:
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People can call into question Starmer's leadership of the CPS, it's entirely fair, that said he doesn't appear he did much wrong with the Saville case.
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First shadow cabinet appointments.
Anneliese Dodds Shadow Chancellor Lisa Nandy Shadow Foreign Secretary Nick Thomas-Symonds Shadow Home Secretary Rachel Reeves Shadow Chancellor is the Duchy of Lancaster Jonathan Ashworth Shadow Health Secretary. |
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I hope he does well in Scotland and get rid of the /S N P, for good.
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Not a criticism, just a comment - can’t ever remember a Shadow Chancellor with 3 years Parliamentary experience, and a Shadow Home Secretary with 5 years Parliamentary experience. |
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It's from the independent....... |
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Avid Corbynista attacks Centrist Labour MP... :D |
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Oh here is the source for you to try and discredit ;) Here |
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Why oh why do some of you Remainers still not get it? The Country wants to leave the EU, there have been several democratic processes since 2016, the country chose heavily, Pro Brexit parties, so if Starmer, sings to your tune, you’re going to be disappointed again and again. First though, we have 5 more years of Conservative rule, with a very large majority, we’re half out of the EU, fully out by end of the year. |
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I've voted for all the Parties and will continue to do so. It probably annoys some that I don't support a party like a football club but their policies and competence change over time so I decide at each election. But I'm pleased that the country finally has a decent opposition leader in the same way that I'm sorry that Ruth Davidson stepped down as Conservative Party Leader in Scotland. |
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Former Labour leader Ed Miliband returns to party's front bench.
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Does that mean, instead of the strong and stable government we've had since 2015, it will all now descend into chaos? :D |
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at least that idiot Richard Burgon isn't there.
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It's hardly smearing it's the truth. What goes around comes around ;) |
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He thought it was a slam dunk. |
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Sorry, I think we were at cross purposes! https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9347496.html |
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...w-cabinet-role He was hedging but his desire is clear - and he would have known that Starmer was a fair bet to be Leader.. |
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Corbyn equivocates. It's just what he does. I don't think anything he has said can be construed as his hoping for a shadow cabinet job. Just that he is more or less incapable of making an unqualified statement about anything.
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A convincing start to stamping out anti-semitism.
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Starmer may look at getting Labour electable by getting rid of the anti semites. |
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Correlation is not causation
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Starmer has to somehow appease them and convince the electorate that they are moving towards the centre. it'll be interesting. |
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