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I hadn't thought about the intrusion on closed areas of forums I am a moderator and have access to information that only mods and Admins of the froum can access.
I just did a search of keywords to see howmany times they are repeated on threads this program could net a lot of private data. |
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As it stands its simply the case of identify a common OIX cookie denominator, then advising the client to remove it. And as posted already, plug-ins are now starting to be developed to simply block the cookie.....and a lot more. |
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You could also argue that because the company was allegedly involved in spyware previously it would be the ideal company that could prevent it going forward as a "poacher turned gamekeeper". Someone as already suggested in the VM newsgroup that they use someone like that to test it. The information that Phorm would use is probably the least likely of anything used by anyone else to capture personal info. You are at far greater risk elsewhere on the net. |
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I WILL dump all my services from VM unless they can guarantee in writing that my data will not touch any equipment that have been installed anywhere to facilitate this selling of private data after i have hit the OPT OUT Button. If it passes through any equipment no matter where in the system it is and has been provided by Phorm or its agents and has Phorm designed software on it then i will not TRUST them to do as i have asked. Its that simple ?. |
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I don't particularly agree with it but it does appear to be a mountain out of a molehill and everyone making rash decisions before all the facts are known. |
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I feel bound to point out, that any system which relies on human compliance for its security is flawed by design. The very fact that Ernst and Young *need* to check to ensure it's not being abused, demonstrates that is capable of being abused. And as surely as one person's stupidity can lead to 25 million child benefit records going astray, sooner or later that abuse, whether by accident or with malice, will occur. Never underestimate the willingness of large corporations to resort to nefarious tactics when they think their bottom line is at stake. Sony and rootkits comes to mind - and were it not for the vigilance of one extremely accomplished blogger, we would still be completely oblivious to that. |
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I will keep moving till i cannot move no more. I have received an email from BE Unlimited stating they are not signing up with Phorm. Looks like they will get my custom. |
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I also in the camp a leopard does not change its spots. I would never trust a company who admited to doing dodgy malware, rootkits to administer something of this magnitude in an angelic manner. I simply dont trust them and firmly think they are scaring people to try make out there system is to protect us and in return we get there rubbish advertising. I really do feel there is lot porkies of its true intentions. This so called phishing is preventable as long as we are vigilant. Make sure the website is what it is by simple checks of the website before parting with sensative details. We dont need webwise or Phorm protection to do this and hold our hand with a smoking gun to our head. If it was anti phishing protection why not VM setup a protection itself without dodgy companies inhand. Thats my ultimate issue with VM and Phorm are not being honest. |
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Are you happy that your data will still be sent to a Phorm server located in a Virgin Media pop sites even when you have Opted out, And given the past software and root kit infections that that equipment supplier issued out are you happy to trust that they will not just ignore you and use you data anyway. |
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heres the potential reason the likes of Phorm want in on the market.
http://www.dailywireless.org/2008/03...data-for-sale/ " Your Data: For Sale A new study from comScore and The New York Times attempts for the first time to estimate how much consumer data is transmitted to Internet companies. It finds that the five largest Web firms — Yahoo, Google, Microsoft, AOL and MySpace — record at least 336 billion transmission events in a month, not counting their ad networks. The analysis, conducted for The New York Times by the research firm comScore, is said to provide the first broad estimate of the amount of consumer data that is transmitted to Internet companies. https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/03/37.jpg “When you start to get into the details, it’s scarier than you might suspect,” said Marc Rotenberg, executive director of privacy group the Electronic Privacy Information Center. “We’re recording preferences, hopes, worries and fears.” .... " the full two pager here http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/te...ss&oref=slogin "To Aim Ads, Web Is Keeping Closer Eye on You By LOUISE STORY Published: March 10, 2008 A famous New Yorker cartoon from 1993 showed two dogs at a computer, with one saying to the other, “On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a dog.” That may no longer be true. .... Consumers have not complained to any great extent about data collection online. But privacy experts say that is because the collection is invisible to them. Unlike Facebook’s Beacon program, which stirred controversy last year when it broadcast its members’ purchases to their online friends, most companies do not flash a notice on the screen when they collect data about visitors to their sites. “When you start to get into the details, it’s scarier than you might suspect,” said Marc Rotenberg, executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, a privacy rights group. “We’re recording preferences, hopes, worries and fears.” But executives from the largest Web companies say that privacy fears are misplaced, and that they have policies in place to protect consumers’ names and other personal information from advertisers. Moreover, they say, the data is a boon to consumers, because it makes the ads they see more relevant. ..... Large Web companies like Microsoft and Yahoo have also acquired a number of companies in the last year that have rich consumer data. “So many of the deals are really about data,” said David Verklin, chief executive of Carat Americas, an ad agency in the Aegis Group that decides where to place ads for clients. ..." |
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this comment on that share price site
http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/deta...PHRM.L&it%3Dle 1900 : 1985 (-31.84%) sums up most investors thinking... http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/deta...ail&id=3947835 "Message I know very little about this company and the technology, but the fact that there has been so much public opinion about it recently then I feel it must have something that someone will buy. In truth I believe that AT&T are looking and if all the major players are on then no matter what the initial public backlash is there will be revenue. " |
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