Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I think I might save that file just in case it "goes missing" over the next few days.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I wonder whether the Torygraph's website has signed up with OIX, perhaps...




Any chance of Phorm being audited according to UK/EU privacy & data protection standards, instead of American?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Interesting that a former boss at the Telegraph is behind the launch of OIX Source : Here

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Christ all this time and still no solid answers for me to have nothing concrete after all this time tells me there are things we are not to know about. All this about targeted ad's is really ****ing me off as it seems phorm can't understand i want no ad's and if i have to suffer them it will be because i choose to not because phorm think it is relevent to me. Also i have the sneaking suspicion that this term "relevent" equates to whoever pays us. I go to my online bank site to check balance and phorm decides finance ad's are relevent to me. Phorm and all it's representatives please take note of the hostility and anger you have caused and retreat from this because while in the start it may be bad for users i gaurantee this will end very badly for you.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I'm asking them not to process my data in any way that isn't required for providing my service. In doing this I'm asking them not to pass any info about my account to phorm - that's any info, not just personally identifiable info. :)

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/Acts/acts1998...029_en_10#sch2

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

this would be normal connection to the internet as i see
Attachment 15950

is this how phorms/webwise is connecting to the isp connection?
Attachment 15951

if so this is happening without my consent then phorms/webwise is intercepting my direct connection without my express permission or consent in doing so is illegal
and is something i would never grant them to do or allow my isp to allow this connection to a third party

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000..._20000023_en_2

can phorms explain how they insert code into the explorer page after interception and then sent onto other parties sites

as i believe in doing so would be breaking major browsers, including Internet Explorer, Firefox, Netscape and Opera html page code of practices

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Anyone experiencing any delays in browsing of late? :erm:

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

As far as I am concerned, any privacy assurances given by a commerical company are not worth the paper they're written on. The only audit I would even consider trusting would be one undertaken by a neutral, non-profit making organization who has nothing to gain or lose by telling the truth. Ernst & Young can claim to be impartial, but at the end of the day, if they publish conclusions that scupper the client's product, then they're not going to attract much future business, are they?
I don't think the UK government are going to stick up for us on this one, because there's the promise of someone somewhere making a huge pile of money out of this, and they seem to be much more interested in "economic growth" than "citizen welfare" - so I think the EU is a better bet. Maybe we all ought to be writing to our MEPs about this (I don't even know what mine's name is...)

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

The more protest the higher the risk of the companies being hit in the share price.

sign here

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ispphorm/

And make as much protest as you can, and hope that the share prices start to drop at the start of trading tomorrow.

The only way to stop this is to hit the companies involved through the market.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

gosh - it's hard work keeping up with this! Can someone explain how phorm differs from google ads?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Google adds can be blocked, Phorm can not.

Using google is an example that Phorm is confusing the issue.

Phorm is spywear google is not.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

It's not the ads that have got people most worried - it is possible to block the Phorm ads by blocking the cookie that anonymously identifies you to the Phorm system (sounds like a contradiction, doesn't it?!)
What is far more concerning is the fact that even if you opt-out of the Phorm system, the hardware in Virgin Media's network that Phorm have installed to analyse your browsing habits still intercepts all your web browsing.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

AYE last night bigtime.

Was trying to update my mio maps for my sat nav.

It was sending the packets but then being delayed for receiving.

A strange HTTP error was being reported by the Mio updater as the update program kept crashing.

Now I not suggesting this was PHORM but its never happened before why NOW.

If anybody can tell me why this happens.

ps on this program for firefox.

Can he make the cookie imune from normal deletion I always clear cookies very quick if I have to enable.

I tend to run my browsing with them switched OFF.

Otherwise anybody know where firefox keeps them to save it and put it in the cookie folder.

I know where IE stores them but just cant find firefoxes.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

also you dont need phorm/webwise to block phishing as google and other browsers do it anyway
same with hotmails toolbar it blocks unwanted advertisements

its just that we dont need this phorm/webwise as most of us already have it implemented on our systems by our own choice we opted to use them so we have no need for them or to be forced to use them or them to be on our connection at all

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Not entirely sure what you are driving at here, but if it is, as I suspect, "how do they replace the site's ads?", then it's simple. Sites, if they want their ads to be replaced, have to opt in. As such, it is reasonable to assume that if a site's owners want to use Phorm for advertising, the code will already be there.