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jfman 26-06-2022 21:34

Re: The future of television
 
OB also plucked from thin air 2025. I see 2035 anything other than an arbitrary extension by ten years than any meaningful analysis or insight to arrive at that figure.

Chris 26-06-2022 22:05

Re: The future of television
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36126305)
There have been a number of reasons why I picked 2035, Hugh. This is just further confirmation that this could turn out to be a significant year which sees the end of broadcast TV.

My driving license expires when I turn 75. Does that mean the end of my driving career?

OLD BOY 26-06-2022 23:14

Re: The future of television
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36126311)
OB also plucked from thin air 2025. I see 2035 anything other than an arbitrary extension by ten years than any meaningful analysis or insight to arrive at that figure.

The 2025 date referred to something else - we’ve been through that already.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36126313)
My driving license expires when I turn 75. Does that mean the end of my driving career?

Very droll, Chris. :D

Chris 26-06-2022 23:24

Re: The future of television
 
I aim to please ;)

Serious point though … just because a licensing period ends at a certain point doesn’t mean the thing being licensed is going to get canned at that point. Nor does it mean there’s any intention, expectation or even likelihood of that happening. Licenses, charters, permits … these things all expire because it’s simply good practice to build in opportunities to review.

1andrew1 27-06-2022 09:38

Re: The future of television
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36126305)
There have been a number of reasons why I picked 2035, Hugh.

In fairness the main reason was that your 2025 date prediction date was ageing badly so you added ten years to it to make 2035 and hoped no one would notice.

OLD BOY 27-06-2022 10:47

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36126328)
In fairness the main reason was that your 2025 date prediction date was ageing badly so you added ten years to it to make 2035 and hoped no one would notice.

No it isn’t fair and I explained that back in 2015. Time for you guys to move on.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36126317)
I aim to please ;)

Serious point though … just because a licensing period ends at a certain point doesn’t mean the thing being licensed is going to get canned at that point. Nor does it mean there’s any intention, expectation or even likelihood of that happening. Licenses, charters, permits … these things all expire because it’s simply good practice to build in opportunities to review.

I know, Chris, but from where I stand, it’s all coming together now.

Too much has been made of this date, although I still stand by it. It’s just what I think will happen.

I’m not bloody Nostradamus!

Hugh 27-06-2022 13:49

Re: The future of television
 
https://advanced-television.com/2022...ers-value-dtt/

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A campaign to safeguard digital terrestrial TV and radio has been launched as research by Ipsos shows that nine in 10 people (90 per cent) across Great Britain want to see continued support for these services...

… The Ipsos research shows that 85 per cent of people believe Government or local MPs should actively support the continued provision of broadcast TV and radio services into the future, while 83 per cent believe the BBC should be doing so.

… For millions of people across the UK, universally available broadcast TV and radio services play a crucial role in their daily lives. Freeview is watched on around 35 million TV sets in the UK [BARB, 2020]. The Ipsos research shows that over half of adults in Great Britain have watched Freeview in the past year (56 per cent), with 43 per cent watching it at home every week. Around 40 million people aged 15 and over tune into radio each week according to RAJAR, with the majority listening through DAB or AM/FM.

The Ipsos research highlights that services received through an aerial are particularly important for vulnerable groups, including older people who may lack the digital skills and confidence to use streaming apps, and people living in rural areas where the lack of, or aged, network infrastructure means they are less likely to have a superfast broadband connection.

People struggling with the cost of living also depend on Freeview. Rising prices have led households to cut back on TV streaming services as people look for ways to save money, with more than half a million subscriptions cancelled for this reason in the first three months of 2022, according to Kantar.

To ensure the needs of UK audiences who depend on these services continue to be met, TV & Radio infrastructure company Arqiva is launching the Broadcast 2040+ campaign, in coalition with organisations including Age UK, Silver Voices, the Rural Services Network and the Voice of Listener & Viewer (VLV).

The campaign aims to secure a commitment from Government that DTT and broadcast radio will be safeguarded to 2040 and beyond.


OLD BOY 27-06-2022 16:55

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36126343)
https://advanced-television.com/2022...ers-value-dtt/

‘TV & Radio infrastructure company Arqiva is launching the Broadcast 2040+ campaign, in coalition with organisations including Age UK, Silver Voices, the Rural Services Network and the Voice of Listener & Viewer (VLV).

The campaign aims to secure a commitment from Government that DTT and broadcast radio will be safeguarded to 2040 and beyond.’

I know, Hugh, but those other countries, and probably ours too, will probably fight against that. I don’t think our government will be happy with the idea - they seem to be committed to the subscription model for the BBC, to accommodate the growing calls to abolish the licensing fee so that those who don’t watch it don’t have to pay for it. Unless they can find a technical means of enabling only those paying a subscription to watch the BBC by broadcast, and assuming that demand for bandwidth for 5G+ continues to grow, I wouldn’t bet my money on this campaign being successful.

You never know, though. Perhaps they will get cold feet.

jfman 27-06-2022 17:50

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This Government will be long gone by 2040.

Pierre 30-06-2022 15:47

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36126299)
Impressive - you are using a Government paper published in April 2022 to support a proposition you made in 2015…

Makes him a visionary doesn’t it?

Hugh 30-06-2022 17:11

Re: The future of television
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36126604)
Makes him a visionary doesn’t it?

Perhaps he heard "voices" telling him the future...

OLD BOY 01-07-2022 13:25

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Another nail in the coffin for broadcast TV.

https://deadline.com/2022/06/british...ew-1235055208/

[EXTRACT]

British television viewers already complain loud and heartily about the amount of adverts on the box (notwithstanding it is the ads that pay for the content they’re enjoying).

Now they could face longer and more frequent ad breaks following a review of broadcasting rules by the regulator Ofcom, as part of a report on the PSB licences of the UK’s two ad-funded channels.

Chris 01-07-2022 13:40

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Oddly enough I was thinking about doing you a favour and posting that last night. If the commercial PSBs lean too hard into that then it might just turn viewers off faster than the ad breaks can rake in more money.

Paul 01-07-2022 14:16

Re: The future of television
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36126313)
My driving license expires when I turn 75. Does that mean the end of my driving career?

Only if you live that long ;)

OLD BOY 01-07-2022 16:53

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36126375)
This Government will be long gone by 2040.

Is that a prediction? Got a link? :D

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36126643)
Oddly enough I was thinking about doing you a favour and posting that last night. If the commercial PSBs lean too hard into that then it might just turn viewers off faster than the ad breaks can rake in more money.

I agree, although I’m conscious that some people actually like the commercials more than the programmes. I have never understood that, but have to acknowledge they do exist - in what numbers, I’m not sure.


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