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morrk 15-01-2007 21:48

Traffic shaping everything (inc newsgroups)
 
I live in Swansea, South Wales, and usually with ntl my newsgroup access and a few websites run at full speed (1200 kilobytes p/s) on my 10meg connection.

However.

Last night, Sunday 14th, my speed dropped to almost exactly 5meg speed (580 kilbytes p/s) and stayed there all night. Now me being the trusting soul that I am put it down to a small fault somewhere and ignored it and when I got home from work tonight, low and behold my speed had returned to the full 10meg speed.

However.

By 7:30 this evening my speed had once again dropped to 5meg. At this point I thought wtf and decided to call India. At which point I was told to try the usual bumpf like rebooting, downloading from Microsoft etc which came to the conclusion that I was indeed getting 5 meg

Now, here comes the interesting point. The guy I was talking to told me that somewhere around 7:30 ish my modem had picked up a 5 meg config file. He then removed and re added my modem back into SABS and then advised of the old chesnut to wait 2 hours. At this point I was about to start shouting but then thought to check my speed. And what would you guess, once again I am getting 10 meg.

Now wtf is going on here?

For the last 2 nights at least ntl have been sending a 5 meg config file to my modem at around the 7 o'clock mark. I did ask the question as to whether traffic shaping was going on but was told no.

I didn't check my modem config file this evening untill it was to late and by then the modem had been re added, but I will be checking again if the same thing happens tomorrow and update but has anyone else seen this kind of thing?

Cheers all

alanc34 15-01-2007 21:51

Re: Traffic shaping everything (inc newsgroups)
 
How do you check your config file on your modem?

morrk 15-01-2007 21:55

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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d...tml#ntlhmdiags

Bill C 15-01-2007 21:55

Re: Traffic shaping everything (inc newsgroups)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by morrk (Post 34198321)
I live in Swansea, South Wales, and usually with ntl my newsgroup access and a few websites run at full speed (1200 kilo bytes p/s) on my 10meg connection.

However.

Last night, Sunday 14th, my speed dropped to almost exactly 5meg speed (580 kilo bytes p/s) and stayed there all night. Now me being the trusting soul that I am put it down to a small fault somewhere and ignored it and when I got home from work tonight, low and behold my speed had returned to the full 10meg speed.

However.

By 7:30 this evening my speed had once again dropped to 5meg. At this point I thought wtf and decided to call India. At which point I was told to try the usual bumpf like rebooting, downloading from Microsoft etc which came to the conclusion that I was indeed getting 5 meg

Now, here comes the interesting point. The guy I was talking to told me that somewhere around 7:30 ish my modem had picked up a 5 meg config file. He then removed and re added my modem back into SABS and then advised of the old chesnut to wait 2 hours. At this point I was about to start shouting but then thought to check my speed. And what would you guess, once again I am getting 10 meg.

Now wtf is going on here?

For the last 2 nights at least ntl have been sending a 5 meg config file to my modem at around the 7 o'clock mark. I did ask the question as to whether traffic shaping was going on but was told no.

I didn't check my modem config file this evening untill it was to late and by then the modem had been re added, but I will be checking again if the same thing happens tomorrow and update but has anyone else seen this kind of thing?

Cheers all

NTL as far as i know cannot send a config to a modem each night and change it each morning. I checked my logs and the logs of my friends modem and it has never changed.

I will try to download of giganews now and post a screen shot.

morrk 15-01-2007 22:05

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Originally Posted by Bill C (Post 34198331)
NTL as far as i know cannot send a config to a modem each night and change it each morning. I checked my logs and the logs of my friends modem and it has never changed.

I will try to download of giganews now and post a screen shot.

Until recently I worked as a senior in bb support in Swansea. Something very fishy is going on here I promise you. The agent I spoke to confirmed my modem had a 5 meg QOS and as soon as he dropped it out and back in it was fine. Are you in the Swansea area?

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Then again, just noticed you are in Chesire on STB. That cannot be changed so easly as you would need to provision each time.

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Just had it confirmed by my mate that still works in NTL that this is indeed correct. NTl are dropping 10 meg to 5 in the evenings in Swansea as a trial :(

Bill C 15-01-2007 22:06

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Originally Posted by morrk (Post 34198335)
Until recently I worked as a senior in bb support in Swansea. Something very fishy is going on here I promise you. The agent I spoke to confirmed my modem had a 5 meg QOS and as soon as he dropped it out and back in it was fine. Are you in the Swansea area?

---------- Post added at 21:01 ---------- Previous post was at 20:59 ----------

Then again, just noticed you are in Cheshire on STB. That cannot be changed so easily as you would need to provision each time.

No i am on a sacm.

I spent 3 years as a Engineer on Broadband in the North West covering training, Faults and new product testing. :)

Take a look at this. NTL are traffic shaping however i have not seen any kit or heard anything that would allow them to change you to 5 meg. Also there are no config files for 5 meg that i have seen. Constant speed on that download was 9.33 meg.

I know what kit they are using for the traffic shaping.
I know where its located.
I walked past it yesterday in my local site.

Its not been changed in any way since it was installed that i know of. To make a point here. I have no problems with p2p being shaped between 6.00pm and midnight. My newsgroup access is not being traffic shaped and i am sure others can back me up with that.

morrk 15-01-2007 22:10

Re: Traffic shaping everything (inc newsgroups)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by morrk (Post 34198335)
Until recently I worked as a senior in bb support in Swansea. Something very fishy is going on here I promise you. The agent I spoke to confirmed my modem had a 5 meg QOS and as soon as he dropped it out and back in it was fine. Are you in the Swansea area?

---------- Post added at 21:01 ---------- Previous post was at 20:59 ----------

Then again, just noticed you are in Chesire on STB. That cannot be changed so easly as you would need to provision each time.

---------- Post added at 21:05 ---------- Previous post was at 21:01 ----------

Just had it confirmed by my mate that still works in NTL that this is indeed correct. NTl are dropping 10 meg to 5 in the evenings in Swansea as a trial :(


Bill C 15-01-2007 22:16

Re: Traffic shaping everything (inc newsgroups)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by morrk (Post 34198335)

Just had it confirmed by my mate that still works in NTL that this is indeed correct. NTl are dropping 10 meg to 5 in the evenings in Swansea as a trial :(

I will check that tomorrow with a person involved with the traffic shaping. ;)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by morrk (Post 34198335)
Until recently I worked as a senior in bb support in Swansea.

Then you should know me ?

morrk 15-01-2007 22:18

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Just ask anyone that works for NTL to read Nexus. Apparently it's all over it :)

I hate living in Swansea :P

Well appart from when the 20 meg trial was happening. And the Gower of course :D

Bill C 15-01-2007 22:19

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Originally Posted by morrk (Post 34198355)
Just ask anyone that works for NTL to read Nexus. Apparently it's all over it :)

I hate living in Swansea :P

Well appart from when the 20 meg trial was happening. And the Gower of course :D

If its on nexus i will log in now and look at it. :)

morrk 15-01-2007 22:29

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I used to speak to engineers all the time until I was molested and put onto faults for almost a year :)

I used to like adding modems on for a fiver no questions asked :) hehe

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I agree with your previous post btw. Yes p2p most definately cap it all but my usenet has always been spot on, but the last 2 days when my speed has dropped there has been no fluctuation whatsoever. 580 odd constant. Thats what got my spidey senses tingling. :)

Bill C 15-01-2007 22:30

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Cannot log in so will leave it till tomorrow. However if its true then i will not be able to confirm it any way as if and i say if its true then it will be classed as company confidential and at that point i will unsubscribe from this thread.

morrk 15-01-2007 22:34

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I wouldn't worry too much anyways mate, its only Swansea apparently and I'm sure enough people will notice eventually if it is true eh :)

Bill C 15-01-2007 22:49

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Originally Posted by morrk (Post 34198367)
I wouldn't worry too much anyways mate, its only Swansea apparently and I'm sure enough people will notice eventually if it is true eh :)

Indeed if this is true it will not stay a secret for long that you can be sure of.

zing_deleted 15-01-2007 22:52

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Originally Posted by morrk (Post 34198358)
I used to speak to engineers all the time until I was molested and put onto faults for almost a year :)

I used to like adding modems on for a fiver no questions asked :) hehe

---------- Post added at 21:29 ---------- Previous post was at 21:20 ----------

I agree with your previous post btw. Yes p2p most definately cap it all but my usenet has always been spot on, but the last 2 days when my speed has dropped there has been no fluctuation whatsoever. 580 odd constant. Thats what got my spidey senses tingling. :)


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