Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Oh sorry, I was a bit ambiguous.

Let me clarify, these are my words to BT; I am Alexander Hanff.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I don't think much of the comment at the end of the article :(

Personally, I don't feel this is a major violation of customer's privacy data. Customers have agreed to view ads in content pages. How these ads are customised shouldn't get them worked up too much.

Posted on BadPhorm http://www.heise-online.co.uk/securi...--/news/110875

There are links on the page to two reports from the Government Committee A Surveilllance Society

It's worth ploughing through the reports to see what was said aaabout data retention and the remarks about the commercial data miners.

More importantly, both Reports have rather tidy lists of the MPs that were part of the enquiry. They should perhaps, all be written to.

Is anyone able to think about doing this. These Committee members are a lot more up to date on the issues than most.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

from your ilago linked url

:wavey: simon
" The committee commends the Information Commissioner for his work on Privacy Impact Assessments, but expresses concerns that they could in practice end up as mere bureaucratic exercises." :)

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

"Watchdog rules out punishment over Phorm trials "

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1...9431420,00.htm

:td:

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Well what can one say about that? I think Richard Thomas should be fired is the short answer.

Alexander Hanff

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

How can the police say they have not received any complaints? As far as I know every attempt at reporting this has been met with a refusal to issue a crime reference number?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

We are told by HMG that Police are responsible for investigations of RIPA violations though. Does this mean a formal complaint is needed?

ICO investigates DPA, not RIPA?

EDIT : @tarka - RIPA complaint specific to the leaked document?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Alex, did you really say lol

And why are the Police required to have someone formally make an allegation? Can't they think for themselves and say "hmmm, here's something dodgy looking, perhaps I'll investigate a little".

They seem to be taking the stance that it's a political issue rather than what it actually is, a breach of uk criminal law. I'm pretty disgusted at Police attitudes over this and clearly shows how much of a puppet organisation they have become.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I can't believe I'm reading that, despite all the evidence they do nothing, because Phorm and BT have told them it's OK.

And as Tarka has already stated every attempt to report this crime has been ignored.

Look like the ICO are in Phorm and BT's pocket.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

some thing stinks about it all who is really behind it all who?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

It is the inability of the IC to think for himself and not ask for documentary evidence that what BT are saying is actually true that is really disappointing.
It really wouldn't take much to convince him that the sky is green.

"Hey, Richard, look at the sky. Isn't it a lovely emerald green?"
"Why, yes it is" :rolleyes:

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

What is becoming increasingly clear is that the authorities have an ulterior motive in wanting the Phorm system to go ahead. If there are commercial systems in place which completely track every move a person makes on the internet there is little argument left to prevent the same thing being done by authorities.

George Orwell may have got the year wrong, but in every other respect his predictions are coming true.

A thought which might make politicians start to take notice: How about we start a new political party with the aim of having a candidate standing in every constituency at the next general election?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

This guy's opinion is worthless from a British point of view. Badri is Indian and Indians probably have a different cultural perspective of privacy (large families with typically less personal privacy). British culture is traditionally a lot more reserved with greater boundaries of people encroaching on our personal space.

Of course British society has undergone a cultural renaissance over the past few years. Voyeuristic reality TV shows everywhere, ASBO yobs showing their drunken @ss in town centres, imported USofA trashy business practices (Hi Kent), and loads more cr@ppy stuff etc etc.

Phorm/*Privacy/K~nt Ertugrul and his sycophants just see Britain as a place to take one huge great dump (sugar coat and polish his turds) then expect us to swallow it down and ask for more. [[ And if you want to see what effect it has take a look at Emma, she's been using it for face cream! :D ]]

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Well it's quite clear from this latest statement that the ICO isn't there to protect the public at all, and now they've said that despite the documentary evidence they'll do nothing, I think it's time I got back in touch with Viviane Reding, EU commissioner for information society and media and inform her that the UK's body to protect the public are totally ignoring the issue, in fact It sounds very much like Phorm and BT are calling the shots there.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

hope the eu take over and go about picking it apart.