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The big question is: why are not Virgin Media 'clarifying' the issue with these reports if they are, as they have recently stated, still only evaluating the situation. Either these sites have got it badly wrong and you would expect VM to be quick to correct this as a 'good' ISP to their worried and concerned customers, or is somebody is telling pork pies? |
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That's bought them several weeks from being under the cosh. They are just hoping to get to the end of the BT trials so they can see which way the wind is blowing. Not a bad strategy, considering it's the one adopted by HMG. |
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Lets face it. If BT / Phorm get this trial badly wrong with the world watching, I imagine heads will definitely roll and those heads will want to ensure the system is watertight from a hackers point of view. It has taken Microsoft years attempting to do this and they are still learning and falling as new vulnerabilities are found. Is is seven or eight windows critical updates this Tuesday ;) Re "Not a bad strategy, considering it's the one adopted by HMG" How does it go? "You can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time". |
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GET REAL - profit is the ONLY thing that MATTERS!
OK, boring, I won't keep saying it, but it's appallingly germane to this particular case |
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http://www.aclu.org/pizza/ |
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Any idea what else we should do? |
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A thought for BT shareholders and perhaps something we can expand on at the demo.
Before the dot.com bubble burst at the turn of the decade, BT were a massive global telecommunications company. Now they are not, due to wrong management decisions. They seem to be putting a lot of eggs in the dot.com Mark 2 basket at the moment. Perhaps we could expand on this? |
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OB btw, :welcome: No. 42 :td: |
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just found this BBC report
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7438578.stm this Q&A is a good read http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7283333.stm |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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I'm afraid that we, as the half-way intelligent and aware, have been comprehensively sidelined by the overwhelming might of Rupert Murdoch, his minions and his imitators, who have created a scenario whereby anyone who questions the idea of economic success (at any price) is automatically a subversive. Which of course all of you guys are. Not to mention............... |
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We probably can't change the situation. One generation at least has grown up with an 'edutainment' rather than an education and most of them seem to think they went to school with Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I don't like the situation, but I do think this is one we can win. I think our MP's are largely a waste of space, but we may get something out of Europe. Maybe it will ultimately depend upon the Congress in the US. God help the 'Phormed' BT subscriber who visits a US web site if they decide it's illegal. A free night flight and an orange boiler-suit for them. Sadly, the reason I think we can win it is because we can embarress a shaky government that is coming up to it's natural (15 year) lifespan and they are worried about what Europe and the US might do. Not forgetting a whole wodge of useless MP's who will start to worry about their seats. But if the Yanks decide it's super we'll get it anyway. Just my thoughts as someone who has never written to his MP or logged into a forum until I heard of Phorm. I always vote though. |
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we could do with an ISP/Phorm and the Phormettes version of this information video if the artists amoung the readers here can make the time to do it and upload it to Youtube phorm section.
thanks to Nicholas Bohm for the link on the cypto list http://www.aclu.org/pizza/ |
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Labougie, you can continue to do that but apathy doesn't rule here and I won't be giving up. The only reason any of this crap has happened in the first place is because of the complete apathy of the general population, but I disagree with you completely in that I believe if that apathy can be dissolved then the people can definitely get those rights back.
When passion swells in the general populace because they have had enough and don't want to take this crap any more, then no government or corporation in the land will stop it. You believe what you like, but frankly I find your comments an offence to people who do give a flying unmentionable and an illustration of part of the problem, not part of the solution. Attitudes like yours are exactly why we are in the situation we are in the first place in my opinion. Instead of being such a pessimist how about becoming pro-active and trying to do something and make a difference instead of just sitting there talking defeatist rubbish. Seriously, why some people even bother to post if all they are intent on doing is trying to dampen morale, is beyond me. Alexander Hanff |
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