Cable Forum - Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

There is an article on the reg about how ISPs are trying to repair their damaged public image due to mis-selling of broadband services by advertising speeds that are rarely attainable.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06...code_practice/

I wonder how much damge this whole Phorm debacle will cause and what they will be doing to repair that public image disaster :)

icsys

05-06-2008 12:55

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by BetBlowWhistler (Post 34568133)

-p22, para 3
To quote the vernacular - **** me backwards! 21CN is a wholesale network as far as I'm aware. What the hell is BT Retail thinking of here? The number of projected servers they need to run this kit is in the region of 300 servers, and mention is made of having to find suitable places to host the equipment. Good luck with that. I know for a fact that your latest datacenter at Rochdale is already pretty much fully subscribed, and unless you take all that reserved space for NHS off them you aren't getting it into Cardiff either (which for those of you not familiar with BT is their main 21CN site). 300 servers? hahahahahaha. Most BT datacenters are running out of/or have run out of power. Unless the Rochdale site is fully subscribed *because* of this project, I don't see where you're going to put this stuff anyway.

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Originally Posted by popper (Post 34568170)

one of many in the near future i hope , this might inspire the insiders with access to also have a root through the records and pas them along to Alexander too, some VM ,CPW,and even 121/phorm if there are any good people that want to help uphold the users rights with access there.

come on annonymouse readers, please dig deep and find and reproduce those other smoking gun documants that are there for the taking...

perhaps even the 3rd party PR firms have some interesting related documents? ;)

A document detailing the 2007 BT trials would be very handy........;)

I envisage a lot of scurrying around at BT land... shredders at the ready!

NTLVictim

05-06-2008 12:58

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Originally Posted by R Jones (Post 34568169)

snip...and wearers of varifocals.

OI!:mad:;)

Anyway, they're good for small component work.

And precise close up body strikes.

BetBlowWhistler

05-06-2008 13:01

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by icsys (Post 34568228)

No worries, BT will host it on 'ThePlanet' or 'Gyron' or 'Fasthost'... anywhere really. Whos going to know? ;)

Hmm, not sure how well that would integrate into 21CN :flyingpig:

hey, where's my flying pig smilie? :bsmack:

popper

05-06-2008 13:26

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/06/43.gif

BetBlowWhistler

05-06-2008 13:39

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

That's cheating! Still, nice piggie :P

OldBear

05-06-2008 13:57

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by popper (Post 34568194)

that was an interesting comment by +Zer0Day
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.ph...st&p=589456673

"
Wow, if this true, and I have my doubts until I see the document myself or its reported in are reliable media outlet, site owners have the right to be ****ed. BT sticking their ads in without permission, isn't that interception of communication, and isn't making a modification to communication illegal?
"

Unfortunately, Neowinians have a tendency to shout "source" for every story they see, and it has to be an official source, i.e. Microsoft story on an MS site, etc, or they just cry "not true".

I don't think they get the concept of a 'leaked' document, sometimes.

OB

btw. I'm actually disappointed at the lack of replies to my post, so far.

Rchivist

05-06-2008 13:59

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Originally Posted by NTLVictim (Post 34568236)

OI!:mad:;)

Anyway, they're good for small component work.

And precise close up body strikes.

I wear em myself !

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Originally Posted by icsys (Post 34568228)

No worries, BT will host it on 'ThePlanet' or 'Gyron' or 'Fasthost'... anywhere really. Whos going to know? ;)
^flippant remark^
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A document detailing the 2007 BT trials would be very handy........;)

I envisage a lot of scurrying around at BT land... shredders at the ready!

So some targeted ads on shredders would enhance their "sensitive document disposal experience"?

Ravenheart

05-06-2008 14:17

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How is it that stories with only 50 Digg's can make the font page, yet the BT Report can't?

icsys

05-06-2008 14:18

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That was a well written post over on the BT forums Mr Jones.

It will be interesting to read the responses from BT https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/06/43.gif

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Originally Posted by Ravenheart (Post 34568303)

How is it that stories with only 50 Digg's can make the font page, yet the BT Report can't?

I was thinking the very same! How does Digg work?

Deko	05-06-2008 14:19

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Mr Hanff

Will the Reigster run with this leaked document story ?

nothing done yet !!

Ravenheart

05-06-2008 14:21

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Originally Posted by icsys (Post 34568305)

I was thinking the very same! How does Digg work?

Maybe we need to put a lolcat or Pron in the title :P

AlexanderHanff

05-06-2008 14:25

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Originally Posted by Ravenheart (Post 34568303)

How is it that stories with only 50 Digg's can make the font page, yet the BT Report can't?

Yeah there is something not right. Most commented article in the Technology category and about 4th in the popularity filter yet still not "popular".

The /. article has been marked as hot since about 6:40am too and is still not published. This concerns me and whereas I don't want to accuse either site of being in Phorm's pocket it is odd that not a single Digg article has gone "Popular" and as far as I know most if not all articles posted to /. have so far been blocked by the mods.

Alexander Hanff

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Deko (Post 34568309)

Mr Hanff

Will the Reigster run with this leaked document story ?

nothing done yet !!

Chris Williams already has the document and has referenced it in a previous article, so I presume he covered everything he regarded as news worthy already. There is a big difference between Chris posting a news article on El Reg with word restrictions/management and me posting reasonably freely on the nodpi site with no word restrictions and only my conscience.

Alexander Hanff

OldBear

05-06-2008 14:26

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Originally Posted by serial (Post 34568131)

Alex, can you give some details about pages 50-52? What is Section 6 - Download Targets?

I was wondering about this, too.

Is this a list of where Phorm bought advertising space to drop cookies?
Is it a list of sites working with Phorm?

Any ideas, anyone?

Wildie

05-06-2008 14:33

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Originally Posted by OldBear (Post 34568321)

I was wondering about this, too.

Is this a list of where Phorm bought advertising space to drop cookies?
Is it a list of sites working with Phorm?

Any ideas, anyone?

weired 5 retries to post then

what would the best way to get cookies into bt users pc, bt yahoo web page maybe, its full of them and once bt user logged in to their a/c via bt yahoo then its easy the drop them i would think.

only logical way i can see it happening.

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