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denphone 23-09-2019 05:12

Thomas Cook collapses
 
Thomas Cook has collapsed after last-minute negotiations aimed at saving the 178-year-old holiday firm failed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49791249

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The UK Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) said the tour operator has "ceased trading with immediate effect".
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It has also triggered the biggest ever peacetime repatriation, aimed at bringing more than 150,000 British holidaymakers home.
Sadly its demise was inevitable as fashions change.

Mick 23-09-2019 06:10

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This is a massive blow to travel industry. A big brand like this collapsing. 21,000 jobs in 16 countries, 9,000 in UK alone. 150,000 customers stranded abroad. Civil Aviation Authority ordered to undertake largest repatriation, in peace time history.

denphone 23-09-2019 06:38

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No doubt about that but the writing had been on the wall for quite a few years now as the company found it increasingly hard to service their huge debt burden as well as failing to adapt to the changes in the holiday market..

Some questions are answered here below for anybody who has a holiday with Thomas Cook.


https://www.theguardian.com/business...tions-answered

pip08456 23-09-2019 07:12

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36011170)
No doubt about that but the writing had been on the wall for quite a few years now as the company found it increasingly hard to service their huge debt burden as well as failing to adapt to the changes in the holiday market..

Some questions are answered here below for anybody who has a holiday with Thomas Cook.


https://www.theguardian.com/business...tions-answered

All explained here.

https://thomascook.caa.co.uk/

Maggy 23-09-2019 08:17

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Sad news for a company that existed in several incarnations since 1881..and a blow to employees and customers.

GrimUpNorth 23-09-2019 09:11

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We flew home from Mexico with them only yesterday and one of the stewards was saying he'd worked for them for over 20 years and when he put his uniform on yesterday morning he cried. I feel so sorry for all those who've lost their jobs this morning.

Carth 23-09-2019 09:43

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Knock on effect, or people taking advantage to make extra cash?

Daughter is currently on holiday in Spain, not booked through Thomas Cook.

There was a meeting at the hotel this morning where they were told that, although many were not booked through TC, there would now be no return transfer from the hotel to the airport.

Awaiting further news . . as it could be , probably is, total confusion over there at this time.

Mr K 23-09-2019 09:45

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Hate to mention the 'B' word, but it was a factor. https://speakerpolitics.co.uk/analys...ge-of-collapse

denphone 23-09-2019 09:49

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The Thomas Cook collapse is going to have a significant ripple effect right across the industry as its collapse is going to ricochet right throughout Europe.

Many businesses are owed huge amounts by Thomas Cook.

Mr K 23-09-2019 09:56

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36011180)
The Thomas Cook collapse is going to have a significant ripple effect right across the industry as its collapse is going to ricochet right throughout Europe.

Many businesses are owed huge amounts by Thomas Cook.

What I don't understand about these companies is that the customer pays up front for the hotel, sometimes months in advance, and hotels don't get paid until weeks after their stay. Sympathy for the staff and customers, but not for their business set up. It leaves customers and hotels having holidays on a best endeavours 'promise'.

Taf 23-09-2019 09:57

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Why is the CAA / HM Government arranging the return flights and not ATOL?

nomadking 23-09-2019 10:13

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36011179)
Hate to mention the 'B' word, but it was a factor. https://speakerpolitics.co.uk/analys...ge-of-collapse

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The firm's fate was sealed by a number of factors: financial, social and even meteorological.
As well as weather issues, and stiff competition from online travel agents and low-cost airlines, there were other disruptive factors, including political unrest around the world.
In addition, many holidaymakers had become used to putting together their own holidays and not using travel agents.
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In May, Thomas Cook reported a £1.5bn loss for the first half of its financial year, with £1.1bn of the loss caused by the decision to write down the value of My Travel, the business it merged with in 2007.
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Thomas Cook’s collapse is not because the British have stopped taking holidays. Far from it: 60% of the population took a holiday abroad in 2018, up from 57% the year before. It is how we are taking holidays that has changed, with the number of city breaks now significantly outstripping beach holidays.
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Just one in seven of us now pop into a high street travel agency to buy a holiday, according to travel agent trade body Abta. Those who do tend to be over 65, and in lower socio-economic groups, with less money to spend.
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Thomas Cook only narrowly survived a near-death experience in 2011. Its debt pile had already reached £1.1bn, and it stayed afloat only after an emergency additional cash injection - but it also meant even more debt to service

papa smurf 23-09-2019 10:16

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36011179)
Hate to mention the 'B' word, but it was a factor. https://speakerpolitics.co.uk/analys...ge-of-collapse

The company was going down the toilet years before any mention of Brexit .

Mr K 23-09-2019 10:18

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36011186)
The company was going down the toilet years before any mention of Brexit .

Only needed a push though, didn't it ? Exchange rates plummeting will have been a significant factor.

papa smurf 23-09-2019 10:27

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36011187)
Only needed a push though, didn't it ? Exchange rates plummeting will have been a significant factor.

I'll give you points for trying but your not even in the right ball park.


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