Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Well done on the apology Alex, it comes across very well. I especially liked the sabre-rattling comment :)
So, after all's been said and done, let's see if I understand what they did. * Purchased ads two weeks prior to the trial in order to drop cookies for use in the trial * Purchased ad space that would present a 'default' charity advert * Sold ad space which would be used as part of the 'two-week ad-serving phase of the trial" and when a cookie was detected and a profile could be matched, the default advert was replaced with one from the 3rd parties who purchased the ad space. Question - The list of agencies that were listed on p7 of the report - were they made aware the nature of the advertising space they were sold and were they appraised of the legal situation regarding the trial ? (based on the assumption that BT/Phorm had legal advice they could quote at this point which has not yet been proved) If the trial is proven to be illegal, then BT/Phorm would also have a case to answer regarding involving these other companies in an illegal act. Have I misunderstood? |
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I don't think the companies involved could be deemed as complicit given that they had no direct part in the act and were presumably unaware. But the report is vague on this so I can't say one way or the other.
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/3...orm-trial.html
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Amazing, legally BT under its Terms and Conditions, could not drop the cookie to enable tracking so instead they let 121Media to do it stealthily http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/D...l-Leaked-95058 |
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Alex hopefully you won't continue to beat yourself up over this. It has managed to smoke out information and admissions that previously were not forthcoming. And it has hopefully given google et al a heads up - if they needed it - that people are after their lunch. All in all a great outcome.
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I've just had a thought (just the one :P) If BT couldn't drop the cookie due to their T's & C's, what would be the legal viewpoint of engaging someone else to drop the cookies for you? Wouldn't that be a breach of T's & C's as it was part of a BT trial?
<hypothetical situation> In other (very old) news.. Re-wind 8 years.. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/12..._right_to_spy/ fast-forward 8 years to current scenario * ISP's have stated they *cannot* store this level of data * ISP's have now proved they *could* store this level of data * Government let's ISP's track users data connections without legal recourse * Government makes ISP's *keep* the data they intercept * Government gains access to ISP's stored data Far fetched? It isn't a conspiracy theory, it's a conspiracy. </hypothetical situation> Alex : you mentioned a couple of times that Chris@El Reg had mentioned the leaked document in an article already published, could you let us know which one please? Ta. |
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i am sure someone will correct me if i am wrong peter |
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********* alex hannff has corrected a statement in response to a request by phorm's / BT's legal team see http://nodpi.org/?p=11 this is posted in accordance with the request by alex that we post this update as requested by the legal communication he recieved ********* no one can say we are not playing fair and by the rules, shame others are not though peter |
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BT/Phorm need to be very careful that they don't generate even more adverse publicity for themselves by targeting "the little guy" (sorry Alexander, but you know what I mean).
The press loves it when corporate lawyers hassle ordinary people. Loads of column inches can result and it never looks good for the suits. They should respond graciously to the apology and everyone move on. However, that doesn't let them off the hook. The content of the leaked document obviously contradicts what they told the ICO and they now have some explaining to do. |
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