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denphone 01-03-2018 13:17

Re: House of Fraser in trouble...
 
Another company in trouble?

https://www.theguardian.com/business...ending-squeeze

1andrew1 01-03-2018 20:08

Re: House of Fraser in trouble...
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35939074)

Yes, retail is facing many challenges, with consumer expenditure being squeezed following the devaluation of the pound resulting in increased purchase prices plus increases in rates, minimum wages and fuel. Online is a key challenge. The slow down in the housing market is a real issue for companies like Homebase and Carpetright.

The weaker players are the ones that are being wiped but as we're seeing with restaurant chains like Jamie's, Prezzo, and Byron all shedding outlets, there's a real squeeze across the board occurring, not just old-fashioned stores that face online competition, it's people trading down from nights out to nights in.

RichardCoulter 01-03-2018 21:15

Re: House of Fraser in trouble...
 
Debenhams in trouble too.

denphone 02-03-2018 04:14

Re: House of Fraser in trouble...
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35939167)
Debenhams in trouble too.

Department stores are dying out sadly.

1andrew1 03-03-2018 23:45

Re: House of Fraser in trouble...
 
Seems to be the case that 6,000 have lost their jobs in the two months of 2018 compared to 12,000 in all of 2017, 26,000 in all of 2016 and 7,000 in all of 2015.
So, yes, 2018 is shaping up to be a bad year for retail but there have been worse years in the past.
Big list here for those interested http://www.retailresearch.org/whosegonebust.php

denphone 04-03-2018 05:15

Re: House of Fraser in trouble...
 
Sadly the list still has a fair way to go yet Andrew according to retail experts as there are quite a few big retail chains who are pretty deeply entrenched in the brown sauce.

Carth 04-03-2018 11:37

Re: House of Fraser in trouble...
 
A massive and alarming list indeed . . and not finished yet.

Regarding clothing (fashion) I think the impact of 'value' shops like Primark have had a massive influence. The large supermarket chains also do an increasing range of clothing - not top quality stuff, but who cares when you can buy a suit for £50 and throw it away after a few months.
Casual wear, shoes, jeans, tops etc are now cheap as chips (which is a silly saying considering the price of a bag of sliced fried potato), and it's the price general consumers are looking at instead of quality.

With electronics, anything you buy today is probably superseded by a 'fantastic upgraded bells & whistles must have' version by next week, buy it online now for £££££ cheaper than instore :rolleyes:

Personally I think we import far too much dross from abroad, in all areas not just clothing, but while people are willing to buy it nothing will change.

denphone 04-03-2018 11:41

Re: House of Fraser in trouble...
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35939489)
A massive and alarming list indeed . . and not finished yet.

Regarding clothing (fashion) I think the impact of 'value' shops like Primark have had a massive influence. The large supermarket chains also do an increasing range of clothing - not top quality stuff, but who cares when you can buy a suit for £50 and throw it away after a few months.
Casual wear, shoes, jeans, tops etc are now cheap as chips (which is a silly saying considering the price of a bag of sliced fried potato), and it's the price general consumers are looking at instead of quality.

With electronics, anything you buy today is probably superseded by a 'fantastic upgraded bells & whistles must have' version by next week, buy it online now for £££££ cheaper than instore :rolleyes:

Personally I think we import far too much dross from abroad, in all areas not just clothing, but while people are willing to buy it nothing will change.

This country used to be a true world manufacturing great a long long time ago but sadly l don't think those days will ever return Carth.

Carth 04-03-2018 12:24

Re: House of Fraser in trouble...
 
Yep, we're past our sell by date indeed :D

oh, and I've just returned from a trip to the retail park - where I went round in circles in the queue for 5 minutes trying to get parked - then decided not to bother after all.

Yesterday I accompanied the wife into town, something I rarely do (I must be ill) and although it was free parking we had a choice of about 200 free parking bays.

My observation was that there is nothing left on the high street to tempt shoppers in any volume, and if retailers want to survive they need to move to where the footfall is. However, this in turn leads to a revenue loss for the landlords and local council . . and a financial loss to the council won't bode well for the supply (and cost) of services they provide.

It's a game eh, and we're all just playing it the best way we can

Chris 04-03-2018 14:35

Re: House of Fraser in trouble...
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35939493)
This country used to be a true world manufacturing great a long long time ago but sadly l don't think those days will ever return Carth.

Those days only disappeared for a short while, in the 1970s. Don’t believe the hype; the UK’s manufacturing output may be relatively smaller than other sectors of the economy now than 50 years ago but that’s for a variety of reasons, most of them quite positive. Go have a quick read of this:

https://www.themanufacturer.com/uk-m...ng-statistics/

The UK is one of the top 10 manufacturing economies of the world. I think that still fits the definition of ‘a true world manufacturing great’.

1andrew1 06-03-2018 21:40

Re: House of Fraser in trouble...
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35939513)
Those days only disappeared for a short while, in the 1970s. Don’t believe the hype; the UK’s manufacturing output may be relatively smaller than other sectors of the economy now than 50 years ago but that’s for a variety of reasons, most of them quite positive. Go have a quick read of this:

https://www.themanufacturer.com/uk-m...ng-statistics/

The UK is one of the top 10 manufacturing economies of the world. I think that still fits the definition of ‘a true world manufacturing great’.

Great link - the UK is still a great manufacturing country, but because a lot of it is business to business, consumers don't see it. They just see the clothes made in Bangladesh and the phone made in China. Not the lorries made in Lancashire or the steel from South Wales.

Meanwhile, back to House of Fraser with the news that its main shareholder has sold its controlling stake to a tourism development company named Wuji Wenhua. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a8241931.html

And at Debenhams, it's now renting out space to hot deskers! https://www.theguardian.com/business...to-hot-deskers

heero_yuy 08-03-2018 13:23

Re: House of Fraser in trouble...
 
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Quote from cityam.com:


New Look has announced it is aiming to cut 980 jobs as part of plans to close stores and reduce its rent burden.

The retailer is proposing a Company Voluntary Agreement (CVA) to creditors, which would allow it to bring down its rents and revise the terms on leases agreed with landlords.

If creditors agree to the proposal, New Look will close 60 of its 593 stores, and an additional six sites which are sub-let. The chain will also cut its rent on a further 393 stores.

Creditors will vote on the proposal on 21 March. New Look said all of its stores will remain open while it consults with landlords and other parties.
Full story on link above.

Affected stores list

denphone 08-03-2018 13:47

Re: House of Fraser in trouble...
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35939986)
Full story on link above.

Affected stores list

Sadly it was inevitable given the current retail environment.

TheDaddy 14-03-2018 07:28

Re: House of Fraser in trouble...
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35939990)
Sadly it was inevitable given the current retail environment.

It's not inevitable imo, I went in the Swatch shop in Brussels the other day and the level of service was incredible, I sat there watching for a while and noticed that whilst the shop was packed no one bought anything, the other half wanted to buy one but when she looked on line they were half the price but then if it weren't for the store how many people would have remembered them let alone found them online, when you compare that with most shops with their sullen, unhelpful staff it's no wonder they're struggling, to survive you've got to offer something different, toys r us went under but the entertainer is thriving due to its innovative approach and it's ability to evolve. One of the things that grates me in shops is when they've got one person on the till with a queue and three others stacking shelves, makes me want to walk out empty handed tbh

heero_yuy 19-03-2018 11:36

Re: House of Fraser in trouble...
 
More high street misery:

Quote:

Quote from The Sun:


The company behind popular high street off-licence chains Bargain Booze and Wine Rack is reportedly scrambling to avert collapse.

Drinks giant Conviviality is now said to be putting together a new business plan that will form the basis for emergency fundraising.

The company ran into trouble last week, following a string of calamitous financial mishaps that led to its shares being suspended.

Without an injection of new cash the company, which has 700 stores and employs 2,600 people, could go under.

Conviviality is preparing to tap its shareholders for as much as £150m to help it meet an outstanding tax bill and provide much-needed funds to keep its shelves stocked with goods.

Management is confident investors will come to the rescue however the failure to source further financing quickly would almost certainly force it into administration.
Must be tough when you can't make money out of booze. :(


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