Logmein Hamachi VPN permanently affecting downstream speed.
Good morning,
Apologies for posting this here in addition to the gaming section. The latter isn't well populated, so I am fearful of getting no response there. (Admins, Please merge the two posts if you see fit.) Our twin sons have a Windows 10 gaming PC each. We built these ourselves with the highest spec we could afford. Our Virgin Media connection gives us 550Mb/37Mb consistently over Ethernet connections from our Asus RT-AC88U router. (CAT5e cable) Everything has been running beautifully for two years. We keep software, video drivers etc fully up-to-date. As part of their wish to improve negotiation with the best game servers they installed Logmein Hamachi VPN. (free version) "LogMeIn Hamachi is a hosted VPN service that lets you securely extend LAN-like networks to distributed teams, mobile workers and your gamer friends alike -within minutes". https://www.vpn.net/ Immediately the twins noticed that their downstream speed was pegged back to a maximum of 120Mb, not only whilst in contact with gaming servers for game play and software updates, but also when not running games. This still applied after reboot and using different speed tests. We looked for configuration issues, but no choices were apparent in Hamachi settings that let the user decide bandwidth. We checked out and reinstalled any network adaptors including the Hamachi VPN adaptor. We updated all Ethernet adaptor drivers and ensured that they were still set to Full Duplex 1GBs. No improvement! In desperation we uninstalled Hamachi VPN - remove settings and files option. To our amazement - No improvement! I went through their systems including the registry deleting all evidence of Hamachi Logmein. (User comments observe that the software is very poor at fully uninstalling itself.) Still the bandwidth was pegged back, even after resetting network adaptors. Next step was to take one of the PCs back to bare-bones Windows 10 Home and then reinstall everything step-by-step, conducting speed tests at each stage. This was to eliminate all other possibilities. Sure enough, broadband speed had gone back to normal 550Mb, even with all previous games installed. So, we reinstalled Logmein Hamachi. Immediately, even without using game servers, speed had dropped to 120Mb. Uninstallation did not restore full speed. My questions are this: Has anyone any idea what is going on here? Has anyone else had a similar experience? Has anyone a clue what Windows settings Hamachi could have permanently changed that remain even after Hamachi is completely removed from a PC? All suggestions welcome. With no solution available, we will, of course, do a Windows refresh on both PCs and stay completely clear of Hamachi VPN. |
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Can you not use system restore to get back to the time the VPN was first used?
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We tried that, but none of the relevant old restore points would restore Windows to its pre-VPN status. Installing Hamachi didn't even create a restore point. Slightly older restore points failed to function. They faltered and stopped on both machines. This is why we did a fresh start, taking Windows back to scratch.
The end result is the same though. We have identified Hamachi as the sole problem. |
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Having never used a VPN, after reading this thread I'd be very wary about using one in the future . . especially a free one.
Not to worry you, but I'd also be wondering what else it was doing, apart from lowering your internet speeds :shocked: Fresh windows install definitely a must IMO. |
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A Windows install is a likely outcome, but we want to see what this post brings up and we have a help ticket awaiting the attention of Hamachi. |
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See, told you I'd never used one :D I learn something every day on here . . some stuff is best forgotten though ;)
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I am genuinely curious about this. |
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I'm not sure how this enhances game play either, unless Hamachi networks used by enthusiasts are connected to optimum games servers. There are lists of Hamachi networks dedicated to particular games: http://www.hamachinetwork.info/Defau...Game=Minecraft How to install: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryvSWIKwcB4 How to set up a private network: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q67KUafEl8 |
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I've had the problem but also never resolved it re: Bandwidth cap. The program also caused DNS issues and adapter issues leading to 'No Internet connection' or Web pages just failing to load.
I remember removing Hamachi didn't resolve any of the above issues. It definitely fiddles with the network adapter or something else. Its been that long I can't remember the steps I used to take to restore everything to normality, that might have given an insight. I remember the 'No Internet connection' issue being fairly common and widespread. A quick Google confirms as such. |
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Sounds a bit like the program is applying a kludge, probably in the BIOS, because a faster connection causes problems for the VPN.
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I did see discussion about Hamachi servers storing your client IP for future reference and pegging back all connections to this. Hamachi does apply a different IP to private network client machines even if more than one client machine is running off the same router. IPs are in the range 192.168.2.** Could Hamachi have some remnant on the machine, even after a full uninstall, that pegs your global internet connection back? If so, that is one diabolical Kludge! |
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I suggested a BIOS or similar low level setting as it could have set the Ethernet to be, say, 100T compatible. Such a change might only be sorted by a fresh OS install.
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In the absence of any solutions, we have taken the inevitable step.
Yesterday we we took my son's PC back to bare-bones Windows 10. Immediately, 550MB/37Mb was restored. All previous apps and games, apart from Hamachi, have been reinstalled, taking a speed test at each step. No problems. Despite it's excellent ability to create private networks for gaming purposes and to help you find private networks linked to good games servers, I cannot recommend Logmein Hamachi, unless you don't mind sacrificing any bandwidth above 120Mb. |
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