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You have to remember Damien political fairness and balance is pretty rare on this forum.;)

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Big deal, imo a government shows its support for its armed forces by equipping them as well as possible, not wasting their lives on foolish ventures and by looking after then once their service is done, not by turning up for a photo opportunity. Wonder if she bothered to stick around and meet any of the veterans like corbyn did and Dave didn't not so long ago.

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Photo opportunities is Corbyn's Forte... :dozey:

And you mean foolish ventures that Labour sent some on and to their deaths on an illegal war! :rolleyes:

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Yes she did stick around and speak to vets and anybody as did Fallon and Edward. They were quite approachable really and the boos that the Echo reported was only a few people compared to the 1000s that were there.

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He was invited to go, he should have gone.

Sorry Damien but he does seem to have a lot of disdain for our armed forces and he was invited to that event in Liverpool, to not go is a snub. He is a nasty piece of work, and he has cronies for friends, aka Abbott and McDonnell, who relished British defeat and even honour the enemy bombs and bullets against our soldiers during the bloody IRA era, that is unforgivable IMO.

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And the Conservatives also supported those wars so they are not immune from it either...

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Which they did for Boris in 2000 and quite a few other politicians as well in these last few decades...

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Not quite true den. They supported them on a lie and because they were misled, by then Labour PM Bliar.

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Not a great lover of him myself even though theirs was a better manifesto IMO but don't forget that governments of the last 30 years on both sides have cut our armed forces significantly so don't think they care for one moment about our wonderful armed forces because they bloody well don't as all l see from politicians from all sides is insincere platitudes and false promises and not much else sadly.

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They still supported them which is just the same and carried on when they were in government and what a sad great loss of lives for wars that should have never have happened IMO.

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I don't disagree with the criticism of his history with the IRA.

But I think this specific incidence is a bit manufactured to be honest. I don't think it's customary for opposition leaders to attend the Armed Forces Day event especially as this is a relatively recent initiative. I can't find much information though on whose attended in the past.

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It's not the same. If you are asked to support something because you have been told it's a matter of life and death, i.e. The presence of WMD. Of course you're going to support it.

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So surely they should have waited for proof of WMD before they put their full support behind it and what about when they came to power as they still supported it then for several more years.

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It was about six years later. A lot of changes had been made and destabilisation. To pull out of the area while a transition to a Strong and Stable government, (Oh no it's that phrase :D ) would have been wrong IMO.

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Lets hope no more stupid wars are forthcoming although sadly if politicians see personal gain for them and their party l would not put it past them.

Yes the Strong and Stable phrase will probably go on her epitaph when she leaves politics and dies sometime in the future as it was a complete and utter disaster and that's her own supporters saying that.

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Yes that's exactly what I mean, I didn't think I could've made it any clearer actually, it's almost as if you can't grasp the concept that I don't like or support either of them, to me labour and the Conservatives are different cheeks of the same arse and nothing would've turned out different no matter which of them was in charge, in fact it makes me feel a little queasy watching these politicians paying lip service whilst at the same time screwing the armed forces into the ground.

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Seems to be very close to the previous tory 2015 manifesto which makes the whole election pointless.

They dropped what I think was their best policy of capping energy prices.