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RichardCoulter 24-06-2022 00:24

Re: Freeview changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36126056)
I was told a unconfirm rumour that PBS may move soon to a new slot on COM4.

I was told PBS was one of a broadcasters (PBS is a only name I know) who has make a bid for Craft Extra slot.

PBS recently tweeted that they are currently in negotiations to go 24 hours on Freevuew and hope to make an announcement shortly.

No idea if this will involve a change of mux.

cheekyangus 24-06-2022 08:52

Re: Freeview changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36126139)
PBS recently tweeted that they are currently in negotiations to go 24 hours on Freevuew and hope to make an announcement shortly.

No idea if this will involve a change of mux.

If they have secured a larger slot they may be waiting for the chaos of next weeks changes to be implemented, particularly as it involves they own +1 closure.

Or it's so last minute it didn't get finalised in time.

The only evidence I've seen of their intentions is a tweet reply and it was worded, to my recollection, to simply suggest their aim was about getting longer hours, not necessarily a full 24hr slot. Have you seen another tweet that specifically says 24?

Media Boy UK 24-06-2022 13:01

Re: Freeview changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36126139)
PBS recently tweeted that they are currently in negotiations to go 24 hours on Freevuew and hope to make an announcement shortly.

No idea if this will involve a change of mux.

PBS was maybe in "negotiations" by making a bid for one of a free slots but have miss out with Warner Bros Discovery or That's TV winning.

---------- Post added at 13:01 ---------- Previous post was at 12:59 ----------

But with CBS Drama moving to Local Mux - Freeview will have one unsold slot on COM6 where Together TV is broadcasting.

cheekyangus 27-06-2022 13:33

Re: Freeview changes
 
PBS America is gaining an extra hour on Freeview from 1st July. Now until midnight.

Source: @afzok on Twitter alerted RXTV to this news about PBS America Freeview hours change.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/pbs-americ...ht-on-freeview

Media Boy UK 27-06-2022 15:09

Re: Freeview changes
 
The following MAY happen from September 22nd:

69. ITV4 +1 - Moves from Channel 89
81. Classic Hits - Moves from Channel 91
86. Country Music Entertainment - Moves from Channel 88
87 TV Warehouse - Moves from Channel 90
88. On Demand 365 - Moves from Channel 97

---------- Post added at 15:09 ---------- Previous post was at 15:07 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36126339)
PBS America is gaining an extra hour on Freeview from 1st July. Now until midnight.

Source: @afzok on Twitter alerted RXTV to this news about PBS America Freeview hours change.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/pbs-americ...ht-on-freeview

Look like a hour is coming from Babestation.

cheekyangus 27-06-2022 17:54

Re: Freeview changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36126354)
The following MAY happen from September 22nd:

69. ITV4 +1 - Moves from Channel 89
81. Classic Hits - Moves from Channel 91
86. Country Music Entertainment - Moves from Channel 88
87 TV Warehouse - Moves from Channel 90
88. On Demand 365 - Moves from Channel 97

---------- Post added at 15:09 ---------- Previous post was at 15:07 ----------



Look like a hour is coming from Babestation.

What's the significance of September 22nd?
*Waits to facepalm and say "Of course!"* :D

Media Boy UK 27-06-2022 18:19

Re: Freeview changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36126376)
What's the significance of September 22nd?
*Waits to facepalm and say "Of course!"* :D

The 12 week rule before Freeview can give out a channel that no longer broadcast on Freeview channel number to a other broadcaster.

CBS Justice is set to close on June 30th on Channel 69 so Freeview cant give ITV the channel number until September 22nd.

cheekyangus 27-06-2022 18:47

Re: Freeview changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36126379)
The 12 week rule before Freeview can give out a channel that no longer broadcast on Freeview channel number to a other broadcaster.

CBS Justice is set to close on June 30th on Channel 69 so Freeview cant give ITV the channel number until September 22nd.

*Facepalm*

With UKTV having shown previous interest in channel numbers, e.g. the recent deal that pushed ITV4+1 to Ch89, I'd have thought Dave Ja Vu would be a more likely candidate for Ch69. Or Classic Hits, since they just bought Ch65 off Freesports. Or maybe even PBS. I can't see ITV wanting to go to much effort.

PBS just confirmed the move on social media (not that I didn't believe that it was in their newsletter).
https://twitter.com/PBSAmerica/statu...70413028474880

RichardCoulter 27-06-2022 20:12

Re: Freeview changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36126153)
If they have secured a larger slot they may be waiting for the chaos of next weeks changes to be implemented, particularly as it involves they own +1 closure.

Or it's so last minute it didn't get finalised in time.

The only evidence I've seen of their intentions is a tweet reply and it was worded, to my recollection, to simply suggest their aim was about getting longer hours, not necessarily a full 24hr slot. Have you seen another tweet that specifically says 24?

No, it's the same tweet reply. I erroneously believed that they broadcast all the time apart from about two or three hours in the early hours of the morning and thought that they would just be mopping up these few hours.

After seeing your post on forumbox.co.uk, I now know that this was incorrect:

https://www.forumbox.co.uk/forum/thr...508#post124508

Media Boy UK 27-06-2022 21:54

Re: Freeview changes
 
I was told that PBS was after a free slot on COM4 but Freeview has reveal that PBS has lost out to Warner Bros Discovery to keep Quest Red +1 on Freeview.

Maybe Quest Red +1 will launch on Virgin when deal is up.

cheekyangus 27-06-2022 23:58

Re: Freeview changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36126397)
I was told that PBS was after a free slot on COM4 but Freeview has reveal that PBS has lost out to Warner Bros Discovery to keep Quest Red +1 on Freeview.

Maybe Quest Red +1 will launch on Virgin when deal is up.

I'd have thought WBD would rather have their On-Demand Apps on VM than add another +1 on a platform with cost/userbase ratio like VM. VM is probably the least cost effective platform for +1s.

Media Boy UK 28-06-2022 15:27

Re: Freeview changes
 
CONFIRMED:

Together TV moving to COM5 and will broadcast from 3am to 7am

https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/together-t...-hbbtv-service

---------- Post added at 15:27 ---------- Previous post was at 15:13 ----------

Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused.

24 hours slots:
-Old Create and Craft Extra slot on COM4
-Old RT slot on COM6
-Old Ideal World Extra slot on Local Mux

Part time slots:
-Smithsonian Channel slot on COM5 (3am to 7am only)
-Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only)

Slots information right as of June 16th.

What’s changing in June on Freeview:

Soon:
-BBC B Mux has room to add up to two SD Channels.
-SDN to provide capacity for a 24/7 stream on Com4 multiplex.
-Together TV to carry on broadcasting on Freeview but as a DTAS service - i.e. streamed channel.

June:
29th. 4Music will become E4 Extra on Freeview Channel 31.
29th. Quest Red +1 moves to a new mux but stays on Freeview Channel 71.
29th. Together TV moves to COM 5 broadcasting from 3am to 7am but stays on Freeview Channel 83 (24 hours via Red Button on some TVs).
29th. That's TV (UK) moves to a new mux but stays on Freeview Channel 92.

29th. Craft Extra removed from Freeview Channel 95.
29th. BBC FOUR HD will move to BBC B Mux - Viewers will need to retune to carry on watching on Freeview Channel 106.
29th. CBeebies HD will move to BBC B Mux - Viewers will need to retune to carry on watching on Freeview Channel 205.
30th. Horror Channel will become Legend on Freeview Channel 41.

30th. Freesports closes on on Freeview Channel 65.
30th. CBS Drama will become RealityXtra in reduction to coverage on Freeview Channel 68.
30th. CBS Justice closes on on Freeview Channel 69.
30th. NOW 80s move to Manchester Mux today on Freeview Channel 77.

30th. More4 +1 closes on on Freeview Channel 86.
30th. PBS America +1 closes today on Freeview Channel 87.
30th. That's TV (UK) moves from Freeview Channel 91 to Freeview Channel 65.
30th. That's TV Music will become Classic Hits and moves to a new mux and move from Freeview Channel 92 to Freeview Channel 91.

30th. Forces TV closes today on Freeview Channel 96.
30th. BBC News HD closes today on Freeview Channel 107.
30th. QVC HD will close today on Freeview Channel 111.
30th. QVC Beauty HD will close today on Freeview Channel 112.

30th. Quest HD will close today on Freeview Channel 114.
30th. A 24 hour slot on COM4 or COM6 will still be not in use today on Freeview.
30th. COM7 will close today.

^Freeview viewers can access high quality streams of all its channels through the red button on Freeview Channel 16.

All information is right as of June 28th.

Media Boy UK 28-06-2022 23:03

Re: Freeview changes
 
I have today work out that a 24 hour slot will still be up for grabs on COM6 after all a changes coming to Freeview by July 1st.

Here is what I have work out today in full:

29th. Craft Extra or RT old slots > Quest Red +1
29th. Together TV moves to Smithsonian Channel slot on COM5 and broadcasting from 3am to 7am (24 hours via Red Button on some TVs).

29th. Craft Extra or RT old slots > That's TV (UK)
30th. Horror Channel > Legend

30th. CBS Drama > RealityXtra
30th. Ideal Extra old slot > RealityXtra
30th. CBS Drama old slot > SLOT will not be in use. (Unless PBS is using slot to broadcast from 11pm to Midnight every night)

30th. That's TV Music > Classic Hits
30th. CBS Justice old slot > Classic Hits

30th. Pop Max old slot > NOW 80s (Manchester Mux only)

Media Boy UK 29-06-2022 11:52

Re: Freeview changes
 
June:
29th. 4Music has become E4 Extra on Freeview Channel 31.
29th. Quest Red +1 has moved to COM6 but stays on Freeview Channel 71.*
29th. Together TV has moved to COM5 broadcasting from 3am to 7am but stays on Freeview Channel 83 (24 hours via Red Button on some TVs).*
29th. That's TV (UK) has appeared on COM6 but is still to start broadcasting at time of posting on Freeview Channel 92.*

29th. Craft Extra removed from COM4 on Freeview Channel 95.
29th. BBC FOUR HD has appeared on BBC B but is still to start broadcasting at time of posting on Freeview Channel 106.*
29th. CBeebies HD has appeared on BBC B but is still to start broadcasting at time of posting on Freeview Channel 106.*

*Viewers will need to retune to carry on watching all channel listed.

---------- Post added at 11:52 ---------- Previous post was at 11:46 ----------

Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused.

24 hours slots:
-Old Craft Extra slot on COM4
-Old Ideal World Extra slot on Local Mux

Part time slots:
-Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only)

Slots information right as of June 29th.

What’s changing in June on Freeview:

Soon:
-BBC B Mux has room to add up to two SD Channels.
-SDN to provide capacity for a 24/7 stream on Com4 multiplex.
-Together TV to carry on broadcasting on Freeview but as a DTAS service - i.e. streamed channel.

June:
30th. Horror Channel will become Legend on Freeview Channel 41.
30th. Freesports closes on on Freeview Channel 65.
30th. CBS Drama will become RealityXtra in reduction to coverage on Freeview Channel 68.
30th. CBS Justice closes on on Freeview Channel 69.

30th. NOW 80s move to Manchester Mux today on Freeview Channel 77.
30th. More4 +1 closes on on Freeview Channel 86.
30th. PBS America +1 closes today on Freeview Channel 87.
30th. That's TV (UK) moves from Freeview Channel 91 to Freeview Channel 65.

30th. That's TV Music will become Classic Hits and moves to a new mux and move from Freeview Channel 92 to Freeview Channel 91.
30th. Forces TV closes today on Freeview Channel 96.
30th. BBC News HD closes today on Freeview Channel 107.
30th. QVC HD will close today on Freeview Channel 111.

30th. QVC Beauty HD will close today on Freeview Channel 112.
30th. Quest HD will close today on Freeview Channel 114.
30th. A 24 hour slot on COM6 will still be not in use today on Freeview.
30th. COM7 will close today.

^Freeview viewers can access high quality streams of all its channels through the red button on Freeview Channel 16.

My OWN views:

I did work out on June 28th that a 24 hour slot will still be up for grabs on COM6 after all a changes coming to Freeview by July 1st.

Here is what I have work out:

30th. Horror Channel > Legend
30th. CBS Drama > RealityXtra
30th. Ideal Extra old slot > RealityXtra

30th. CBS Drama old slot > SLOT will not be in use. (Unless PBS is using slot to broadcast from 11pm to Midnight every night)
30th. That's TV Music > Classic Hits
30th. CBS Justice old slot > Classic Hits

30th. Pop Max old slot > NOW 80s (Manchester Mux only)

All information is right as of June 29th.

cheekyangus 29-06-2022 12:41

Re: Freeview changes
 
Are you sure those are both in COM6? There aren't meant to be more free streams untik tomorrow's changes. Whereas COM4 could accommodate one of them.


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