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We have a mad man in North Korea with nuclear weapons and a loud mouth frog in America with nuclear weapons, this is only going to end badly :(

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Problem with MAD is that it assumes the participants are all rational. :erm:

I'm not too worried about the States because of the stability of the military and political system but North Korea do come across as a administration that would nuke someone for the attention alone.

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As long as the Secretary of Defence verifies and passes on the order, the President can launch a nuclear strike.

That's all it takes.

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Mattis seems rational though? Plus Trump will have everyone arguing against it.

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It worries me that we are counting on the person below the person in charge to be rational...:shocked:

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Regardless of what people think of Trump, he did once say on the campaign trail, I think he said during one of the TV debates, when Hillary was accusing him of being trigger happy, he retaliated by suggesting he would prefer a nuclear weapons free world and that he does not like them, but while others have them, the U.S cannot be left defenseless.

But his stance is that he knows Russia has spent a fortune upgrading it's military capability, that he feels the US must do the same, he accused the Obama administration of letting things slide in this area.

The other thing with Trump is, he does not reveal his intentions, which is why the 59 missile strike on the Syrian Air base that was responsible for the chemical weapons attack earlier this year, was a total surprise.

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The Russian military budget is $70 billion in the last year, and the USA's is $611 billion - nearly 9 times as much.

Hillary didn't want to not have nuclear weapons, she was concerned that someone who tweets angrily at 4am in the morning if he's upset would be in charge of them.

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No need for the dramatics Hugh, 6 months in he's managed well so far.

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If a measure of his success is that he hasn't blown the World up yet, it's setting the bar a bit low imo.

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Kim Jong Un seems to like his life, and power.

He must surely know that if he actually attacked anyone he would be blown out of existance.

I think he'll stick to acting big, but not really try to kill himself.

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Yes, hopefully he's more rational than he seems on the surface.

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Kim Jong Un is completely rational and far from mad. He is doing exactly what he should be doing for the good of his country. At no point will he send nukes at anyone, no matter how much western governments through media try to scare people.

Anyone with nukes know the minute they send one towards another country legitimately, they will have nukes sent to obliterate their region. So nukes are a deterrent. Having nukes stops countries invading you. More specifically... war happy American military terrorists and whichever countries they can rope in to help and legitimise the invasion.

King Jong has learnt from history. Libya had nukes which America eventually got it to disarm through negotiations and then....invaded Libya by helping the rebels get rid of Gadafi. They also tried sanctions and everything to get Iraq to get rid of it's nukes and once they were not usable...America invaded them and got rid of Saddam.

Looking at that history, if you were responsible for the well being of a country, would you not make sure you had nukes to make sure muricaaaa didn't invade your country? :P

Yes be patriotic but don't be sheeple when it comes to the Kim Jung Un is evil and so is Putin. Every other country does the same things they do but strategically the Russia, China and Korea coalition are together to protect against the EU and America coalition and vice versa, when you simplify it that way.

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On scale of 1 to 10 how doomed are we? I'm going with 10.

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Another good reason not to bother with a pension... :erm:

;)

Those of us who lived through the 60's and 70's had the very same worry, many of us convinced that WWIII was imminent and we'd all be blown sky high or irradiated by Warsaw Pact nukes. We thought those days were gone with Gorbachev's reforms but...

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He's doing what's best for him, not his country, just like his father and his father before him. The people of North Korea have not benefited from their isolationist and provocative government which has seen concentration camps for minor transgressions against the regime, famines or just the everyday abject poverty outside of Pyongyang.

You don't need to be a sheeple. You can read the accounts of those who've escaped North Korea, a very dangerous endeavor considering you're not allowed to leave with special exemption, to see what the regime is like.

And there is no Russian/Chinese/Korean coalition. China tolerate North Korea because they don't want American power on their doorstep but that's the extent of their interest in North Korea in recent decades. Russia's interest dropped away after the end of the Soviet Union and with it their financial support for the country. I doubt either is enthusiastic about the prospect of them having nuclear weapons. There is no nation state lending any real help to North Korea.

People can go too far the other way with this (healthy) skepticism of Western foreign policy and lending any moral or political legitimacy to North Korea is one such example. They're a immoral, dangerous and failed state.

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Knew I should have got that Tesla. :mad: