Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
 

The you will have a source then wont you.

I am very interested in this companies actions as i would like to see it crash and burn, its a blatant breach of privacy and akin to building up a personal profile of somebody's interests, hobbies, wealth and habits.

By telling people to move away from VM (just move away was all i said remember, not necessarily goto Sky) it may encourage people to get wise to this and at the same time find themselves a better provider.

If they happen to goto Sky and leave VM then that just sticks it up VM even more.

Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
 

I just took a look at the webwise opt-out provision...

• The opt-out procedure misleads those wishing to opt-out if they have scripting disabled. The web page text suggests the opt-out was successful when in fact the webwise site only attempts to set the cookie using javascript (which the user has disabled).
• The cookie currently only has a default lifetime of 730 days, after which ISP subscribers would have to "opt-out" again.
• The cookie is called userType and stores a value field of either 'BT User', 'TalkTalk User' or 'Virgin User'. I'm unclear on this... but why store this unless the opt-out is per ISP? What about those who take a laptop between subscribers; tentatively living together as a couple, children of divorced/separated parents etc..?

There's also a test domain of thelathe.com, they're a web development firm in NY -- I assume they wrote the code.

Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
 

Well you are the one dreaming up assumptions and making up arguements where they don't exist. Try debating properly if you want a serious reply. This thread was going okay until you entered it.

Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
 

Thanks to the posters who gave the heads up on TOR.

I installed it today along with it's companion Privoxy plus the on\off switch add on. Unfortunately it is no better than when I tried it years ago as it took 63 seconds to get to and load cable forum's site. I tried loads of other sites and decided, whilst I still had hair left, that I cannot live with surfing speeds which are almost as slow as when I used a ridiculously slow dial up modem (V21 = 300 b\sec) with the first Mosaic browser. Switched off I was able to load the site and auto login in a fraction over 3 seconds (according to Firefox). For me it is no answer.

If anybody else has tried it and found that it just doesn't want to un-install.... it runs as a service and has to be stopped before most of it goes. The rest of the removal involves a bit of brute force and a registry clean up.

Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
 

Will this one do? So where are you going to go if SKY also decide to do this? Maybe best to give up the internet altogether?

Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
 

Alright, own up!

Who was the "Anonymous coward" that posted the CF article on El Reg's second Phorm article? :)

Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
 

I feel your pain, 63 seconds to load this page is pretty ugly, though I must admit its not actually all that bad here. This board seems to load almost as quick with TOR enabled as without, so I guess it all depends on the luck of the circuit thats made at the time of connection. Some circuits will be better/quicker than others. Just pot luck.

Conversely I've had a few other pages not even load earlier today while using TOR, so its swings and round-abouts.

There is another application to try that supposedly provides web browsing anonymity - JAP. This too is a free service and might be of interest to those that are taking issue with TOR. I haven't used it myself yet as TOR seems to be pretty good at providing me the kinda service I'm looking for right now. But if anyone does give JAP a go please report back here and let us know how you get on with it. Its always nice to have options.

Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
 

More waffle, show me these assumptions and made up arguments then.

In one post ahardie has done more than you have and answered a question i posed as opposed to posting bait.


---------- Post added at 22:19 ---------- Previous post was at 22:17 ----------

Interesting indeed and quite disturbing if true. However as no other reports discuss Sky in connection with this company im hoping its just speculation as opposed to anything concrete.

Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
 

Easy ... Post 251.

As I said don't post if you cannot debate properly or I shall see to it that you will not be posting at all.

You have yet again come into a thread with your stupid anti-VM / Pro-Sky agenda and its becoming ever so tiresome. :zzz:

Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
 

Hold on, in response to Stuart C's post where he claimed Sky were considering it in a guardian article, when in fact all it said was that other ISP's had been approaced, i said.

The you said:-

The came my response in 251:-

Your response was completely nonsensical, i.e. assume they are considering it and dump sky so you know what it feels like? I mean, what?

Then you claim im "dreaming up assumptions and making up arguements where they don't exist."

Finally I get the threat of a ban because the debate doesn't go your way.

How is that a debate mate or for that matter, how is that even a mature discussion on your part?

Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
 

Think about what you posted when you first entered this thread - your usual think you know it all attitude and stupid one sided approach, i.e VM are doing this and it was according to you, another reason and that you think we should have learnt by now. Sorry but I do not think along same wave lengths you do, I do not go about singing and praising one single company as much as you do.

You are. I never said you should dump Sky to go to VM - You made that assumption. I asked would you be learning like the rest of us, if Sky was considering this. How you can interpet this as 'Dump Sky, go to Virgin I'll never know, but then again you do have a one sided agenda.

You seem to be under the illusion that I want the thread to go some 'way' I don't want it to go my way - But perhaps I just want it to be a sensible discussion and it was until you entered with your one sided crap and your beloved Sky cannot do anything wrong, in your eyes nonsense.

Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
 

Note, no mention of Sky...

Stuart C is the one who brings it up.

And finally my reason for posting, where i even reiterate that im not saying move to Sky.

That's all im going to say Mick, you spin that how you want.

Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
 

Yes he does and I am called Mick - not Stuart C. :rolleyes: :dozey:

You are the one who is doing the spinning to satisfy your own twisted and one sided agenda. As well as refusing to at least accept the fact that your beloved Sky, can possibly be considering such a scheme. So your attitude is, when you posted yesterday: 'when will people learn', you must obviously think you are in better position than anyone else because you are with your beloved Sky and Sky is your answer to everything. So if you don't mind, it is an attitude, I at least, can do without. :rolleyes:

Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
 

Mick I respect your position as a mod/admin, and I don't care about the in's and out of your dispute with TheBlueRaja, but do you not think that you both should return this thread to discussing the prospective ad deal?

Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
 

All of this Ssky rhetoric is very interesting, but becoming very off topic for this thread which is supposed to be about the implications of Phorm's system and it's impact on privacy. Can we return to that debate please?