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Dave42 08-04-2013 12:33

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35558366)
Sky refuses to air BT's ads for its Premier League coverage.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013...premier-league



A leopard never changes its spots and remember Sky have considerable history of bully boy tactics l am afraid.

what a surprise eh Den NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT cue the usual sky fans trying to defend the indefencable

Chad 08-04-2013 12:44

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Interesting article. We've got BT's thoughts on the matter but not SKY's. The article does end saying "More details soon..." Looks like they will try and get a statement from SKY. It's fighting talk from BT, which is great to see.

denphone 08-04-2013 12:50

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35558374)
what a surprise eh Den NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT cue the usual sky fans trying to defend the indefencable

Even the old diehards servants nurtured under thy master cannot defend that.:D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35558381)
Interesting article. We've got BT's thoughts on the matter but not SKY's. The article does end saying "More details soon..." Looks like they will try and get a statement from SKY. It's fighting talk from BT, which is great to see.

Don't l remember Sky doing the same thing to Virgin a few years ago as well.

Chad 08-04-2013 12:55

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35558385)
Even the old diehards servants nurtured under thy master cannot defend that.:D

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Don't l remember Sky doing the same thing to Virgin a few years ago as well.

On the surface it looks petty from SKY however we don't have their side of the story yet. I'll wait for that before drawing a conclusion.

Mr Banana 08-04-2013 12:59

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
They will have to air them at some point. They are no doubt trying to delay as long as posiible to disrupt Bts entry to the market.

denphone 08-04-2013 13:05

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35558389)
On the surface it looks petty from SKY however we don't have their side of the story yet. I'll wait for that before drawing a conclusion.

Sorry Chad but previous history tells me otherwise.:nono:

Gavin-D 08-04-2013 14:59

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
BT and Sky 'at loggerheads over Premier League wholesale rights'

Sky wants to acquire BT's live Premier League rights on a wholesale basis.

BT is facing a tough decision over whether or not to sell Sky the wholesale rights to its live Premier League football matches.

The telecoms giant has won the rights to screen 38 games per season from 2013/14 to 2015/16 in a deal worth £738 million and will show the fixtures on its soon-to-launch BT Sport service. Among BT's package of live matches - which represents a quarter of the clashes to be televised each season - is the opening game of the new Premier League campaign.

BT has already revealed that it will sell the sporting content directly to Sky customers, but the satellite broadcaster is understood to be keen on acquiring the wholesale rights so it can offer the whole season to Sky subscribers at its own prices.

Speaking to the Mail on Sunday, a source close to talks between the rival broadcasters explained: "The main issue has been over wholesale rights.

"BT does not want to give them to Sky since it wants to use BT Sport to lock in two million of its customers who watch Sky on BT broadband."

http://www.cable.co.uk/news/bt-and-s...hts-801567631/

Murdoch's Sky TV accused of abusing power by refusing to air competitor's ads

British broadcaster Sky — a company controlled by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. — has reportedly refused to air ads for a competing service on its channels. The accusation comes from telecoms giant BT, which is making a big play for the UK sports TV market. Sky has enjoyed something of a monopoly on content and distribution in the UK over past decade. It has double the number of subscribers of its nearest competitor, and around 40 percent of UK households have at last one Sky box.

To combat Sky's dominance, BT is ramping up its sports coverage — traditionally Sky's strongest market. It paid £738 million (roughly $1.13 billion) to broadcast 38 Premiership soccer matches live, and also snapped up the rights to rugby, cricket, and women's tennis. BT has filed an official complaint with the UK's Office of Communications (OFCOM), saying it's the victim of "undue discrimination." It's not clear what grounds Sky gave for refusing to air the ads. Speaking with The Guardian, BT Retail managing director John Petter said "we are happy to take Sky's advertising but they seem afraid of taking ours," comparing Sky's decision to "a rottweiler running away from a newborn puppy."

http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/8/419...advertisements

Sky are a rottweiler and we are a newborn puppy! BT complain after rivals refuse to air their ads for new sport channel

With all eyes on the Manchester derby a brand new Premier League rivalry is kicking off behind the scenes between rival networks Sky Sports and BT.

BT bosses have accused BSkyB of being a like a ‘rottweiler running away from a newborn puppy’ after the long-standing network refused to air BT’s new advertising campaign.

The adverts are for BT’s new multi-million-pound network to promote its coverage of the Premier League and other sports beginning in the summer.

BT have now lodged an official complaint with regulators Ofcom claiming that BSkyB have shown ‘undue discrimination’ against them by refusing to run the campaign of adverts.

John Petter, managing director of consumer for BT Retail, told the Guardian: ‘We are happy to take Sky’s advertising but they seem afraid of taking ours. It’s like a rottweiler running away from a newborn puppy.’
BT spent £738million to take 38 top-flight games next season after the channel launches in July and will also air Premiership Rugby and European Rugby.

But a key part of their strategy of growth is to raise awareness of their new channel by advertising on Sky Sports channels.

The broadcast code states that 'a radio broadcaster must not unduly discriminate between advertisers that seek to have any commercial communication included in its licensed service.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz2Psd8Wytf

Chad 08-04-2013 15:13

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Here is SKY's reply:

BSkyB says it has invested billions of pounds in its own sports channels and will not run a rival ad campaign on the Sky Sports portfolio. However, it says BT is free to run its ads on the 100-plus other channels that Sky sells TV ad spots across.
"There many other avenues for BT to advertise its sports channels without seeking to take advantage of the investments that we've made to build Sky Sports," said a spokeswoman. "It's entirely reasonable for us to choose not to carry advertising for a directly competing service."
ESPN, which currently holds the rights to some Premier League matches, does run football ads across Sky Sports, but does have a reciprocal carriage deal to air Sky channels. BT does not currently have a deal to air its sports content to Sky customers.

paultrademark 08-04-2013 15:37

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
So it's not refusing to air the ads, but saying they can do it on any other channel apart from the Sky Sports channels. Seems fair enough to me.

Media Boy UK 08-04-2013 15:39

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35558511)
So it's not refusing to air the ads, but saying they can do it on any other channel apart from the Sky Sports channels. Seems fair enough to me.

I see Sky Sports running ads for ESPN sometimes.

paultrademark 08-04-2013 15:56

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35558514)
I see Sky Sports running ads for ESPN sometimes.

Yup as ESPN also do for Sky.

Quote:

ESPN, which currently holds the rights to some Premier League matches, does run football ads across Sky Sports, but does have a reciprocal carriage deal to air Sky channels.

Mr Banana 08-04-2013 15:56

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35558511)
So it's not refusing to air the ads, but saying they can do it on any other channel apart from the Sky Sports channels. Seems fair enough to me.

So should itv stop advetising sky sports in their chamions league games?

Also do sky carry netflix ads on their movie channels?

paultrademark 08-04-2013 16:00

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35558522)
So should itv stop advetising sky sports in their chamions league games?

Also do sky carry netflix ads on their movie channels?

No idea what you mean about ITV advertising Sky, but surely that's up to them.

And I don't know, do they? Do Netflix carry Sky ads?

You wouldn't get Asda advertising in Tesco's would you?

passingbat 08-04-2013 16:03

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35558511)
So it's not refusing to air the ads, but saying they can do it on any other channel apart from the Sky Sports channels. Seems fair enough to me.

Not to me. If a channel takes advertising, and the rules say that they aren't allowed to be selective in that advertising, then they should be forced to take BT advertising.

Mad Max 08-04-2013 16:04

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35558502)
Here is SKY's reply:

BSkyB says it has invested billions of pounds in its own sports channels and will not run a rival ad campaign on the Sky Sports portfolio. However, it says BT is free to run its ads on the 100-plus other channels that Sky sells TV ad spots across.
"There many other avenues for BT to advertise its sports channels without seeking to take advantage of the investments that we've made to build Sky Sports," said a spokeswoman. "It's entirely reasonable for us to choose not to carry advertising for a directly competing service."
ESPN, which currently holds the rights to some Premier League matches, does run football ads across Sky Sports, but does have a reciprocal carriage deal to air Sky channels. BT does not currently have a deal to air its sports content to Sky customers.

Perfectly reasonable reply imo.


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