Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal - Would you be opting out?
Virgin Media sure know how to hit that self destruct button don't they ?
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Adding it into this already very busy thread will make it almost impossible for newcomers to locate and benefit from. Thanks. |
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But I will reach a compromise and update the thread title with the post number which contains the uptodate information so it can be searched more easily. |
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One discussion thread, that'll quite likely extend to 20+ pages within a week and more once the new system goes live, and A second announcement thread -- sticky and closed so only Mods can post perhaps -- purely for a summary of what's been uncovered so far. Probably only half a dozen posts. If you came to the forum for the first time looking for vital information, which would you find easier? ymmv |
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You don't know my full address details as much as I don't know yours and I can search this site high and low - I will not find it because this site does not contain such information unless of course you have chosen to give this information out. |
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Username sirius i play games been here a while away you go tell me all the info you find about me ? |
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Not sure i'm happy about the opt-out process. Every time you clear your cookies you have to go to the site and request a new one? |
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I was planning on cancelling again now I got over the euphoria of my temporary 10M upgrade/cancellation glitch (see other threads). But I was still very much in two minds. If this goes ahead it will be a no-brainer and help towards next years holiday :) |
Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 77]
Update 2. For further clarification, Virgin Media have directed me to the following FAQ on the Phorm website...
Frequently Asked Questions Who is Phorm? Phorm is an innovative digital technology company that designed and built the infrastructure and technology that power Webwise and the Open Internet Exchange (OIX). [X] Which ISPs have partnered with Phorm to launch the OIX and Webwise? UK ISPs representing approximately 70% of the UK broadband ISP market have joined Phorm to launch the service to consumers. These are BT Group PLC, The Carphone Warehouse PLC and Virgin Media Group. [X] For Consumers - Webwise What is Webwise? Webwise is a feature offered by leading UK ISPs in the UK that helps protect customers from fraudulent websites and replaces generic online ads with ads that are relevant to customers' interests. Webwise is powered by Phorm technology.[X] How do I opt out, or switch off the service? If you have the OIX or Webwise available from your ISP, simply go to www.webwise.com and click Webwise Off. If you have several computers using the same internet connection, or use different log-ins or browsers, be sure to switch off Webwise from each one. When Webwise is off, you will no longer receive warnings before reaching fraudulent sites. Webwise will also no longer analyse any data from the web pages that you browse to see if there are better ads to show you. For more information, see www.webwise.com/how-it-works/faq.html. [X] How does Phorm protect customer privacy? No private or personal information, or anything that can identify you, is ever stored - and that means your privacy is never at risk. Phorm identifies each user with a unique, randomly-generated number. With it, Phorm can deliver warnings of potentially dangerous websites and replace untargeted ads with more relevant ones, but can never identify the user personally. Phorm's technology can also be switched off easily at any time. [X] What information does Phorm store about browsing behaviour? Phorm only stores advertising categories that match a user's areas of interest. There is no sensitive data stored. [X] Does Phorm ever store a customer's IP address? No. The IP address is never stored. [X] Does Phorm collect any information that can identify me by name, address or any other personally-identifying information? No. Phorm does not collect personal information, and cannot use it to serve ads. The system does not attempt to identify the user in any way and does not integrate with any system (like the ISP's log-in system) that could identify the user. [X] How does Phorm ensure that no personal information is collected? Phorm uses technology that has been built from the ground up to avoid any information that might identify a customer personally. Phorm technology does not view any information on secure (HTTPS) pages, and ignores strings of numbers longer than three digits to ensure that we do not collect credit card numbers, phone numbers, National Insurance or other potentially private information. [X] Can a user's browsing history be identified if the government or ISP requests it? No. The browsing history is not stored in any way. The unique fundamental design of this technology ensures that consumer privacy is protected and that, even under compulsion, no personally-identifying data or detailed browsing data can be retroactively provided to anyone. The privacy claims Phorm make about its technology's use of consumer data have been verified by leading global auditing firm Ernst & Young. (View report PDF) The technology used by the OIX will be regularly audited on an ongoing basis to make sure that we continue to comply with our commitment. [X] What type of security measures do you have so that aggregated data is not stolen or lost? Phorm has a high level of system and network security and operates a stringent security policy. Access to database hosts is restricted to systems administrators and data access is only permitted for specific purposes within the terms of the security policy. However, the major safeguard is that all data is anonymous and cannot be attached to any individual. Only derived channel-match information is stored against the anonymous id in the database and all raw data is deliberately and continuously deleted according to the privacy timeline. These procedures are regularly audited and verified by Ernst & Young. [X] |
Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 77]
Virgin (phorm) might need to rethink the idea of an opt in or opt out procedure relying on a cookie:
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I bet they're hoping people will not notice that their choices are either sanctioned (£->Phorm) or unsanctioned (normal) web-ads, while all the time wrapping it up as if they're providing us with a 'service'. Fortunately, I like to slice my own bread. I don't need Phorm to do it for me. |
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