Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Bold for my comments...

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All the best, don't be gone too long - keep the meter running. Wonder what you will think before replying to the great Customer to Taxi Driver question: "Been busy?" (Yeah, busy like you wouldn't believe!!)

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I've been trying to find more info about our Mr Ertugrul with little success apart from the way he seems to be able to raise loads of dosh, start up new companies which then soon disappear.
I might be wrong but f'rinstance Life.com doesn't exist as it was nor, of course, does 121media.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

we look forward to the usual cabbie story of "guess who was in the back of my cab" when you get k*nt and give him a rough ride both verbally and and nipping round corners or having to brake sharp :)

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I have the right to refuse customers and if Kent got into my cab he would be told to get out immediately. He would probably be using his cell phone to photo my ID and use the law books on the front seat to build a behavioural profile of me.

Alexander Hanff

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

The small upward surge in the stocks is based on MADNESS!!!!!

This is the group making the recommedation:

http://www.britishbulls.com/StockPag...Services&TYP=S

This is the basis of their recommendation:

http://www.candlesticker.com/Cs03.asp

SERIOUSLY, don't laugh so much... this is K*nt's lifeline...

These Loons are propping up the Price!!!

:shocked:

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Sorry did his say offered a choice of OPT OUT and not offered a OPT IN, i am sure they been told it`s OPT IN.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

so the next questions are

where does the money come from?

where does the money go?

why has the investment people not twigged any connection like the above?


as to 121media from iii, under news

04-05-07, 121Media completes reorganisation, becomes unit of Phorm by AFX UK Focus

LONDON (Thomson Financial) - Online advertising firm 121Media Inc has become a wholly-owned subsidiary of newly-formed holding company Phorm Inc following a reorganisation, Phorm said.

Each 121Media share has been converted into a share of Phorm, which began trading on AIM today.

note the date was 04-05-07 not a current news item


about k*nt from march 2005 from http://www.growthcompany.co.uk/aim/f...benjamin.thtml

He has already made his mark in industries as diverse as hamburger bars, online dating, voicemail, and micro-gravity flights for tourists (where he charged up to $11,000 dollars for a thirty-minute thrill ride in a MiG jet). His latest venture, online advertising play 121 Media, floated on AIM in December last year, raising £1.72 million at 245p a share. It is looking to tap into the growing market for online 'contextual advertising'. 'I've always valued a new challenge and, over the years, I have developed a 'why not?' perspective, and there is no reason why this business should not be huge,' explains Ertugrul.

Such a perspective is behind his aim to dramatically increase the two-to-three million people that currently use 121's offering. This is a simple product called 'Pagesense Desktop' that is imbedded in free, popular software programmes (especially file sharing ones) that are downloaded in their droves from the net. Pagesense allows 121 to legally interrogate a users habit and then deliver tailored advertisements on behalf of clients.

does that sound familiar, bury pagesense in a dodgy filesharing app, bury the legal loophole saying you consent somewhere deep in the EULA that no-one ever reads,

hmm, fast forward to present, bury the kit in a dodgy ISP, bury the legal loophole (it's l-l-l-legal honest) as a upgraded privacy clause in the ISP's T's and C's very few people read

anyone see any similarities??

peter

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Ask any marketeer what their understanding of "opt-in" is.

"opt-in" means the tick box says "tick here if you want to receive junk mail"

"opt-out" means the tick box says "tick here if you do not want to receive junk mail"

Now I suspect that someone in BT/Phorm has interpreted the ICOs recommendation to mean that users can be plagued by these interstitian *demands* for consent whenever they delete their cookies so long as the screen says

"Join webwise today, it's fun, free and makes the world a better place, tick here if you agree".

Clicking cancel will opt you out and BT/Phorm hope this satisfies the lawyers.

As a technologist and protocols expert I have to seriously disagree. Opt-in to my mind means a clean connection until I take the action of visiting the BT website and chosing to turn Phorm on.

BT and Phorm to my mind know this is a non-started and are looking, I would imagine, for a compromise which allows them to prove to the ICO that it is "opt-in" whilst actually getting enough customers to make it worth while, i.e. coming up with a fudged definition of opt-in.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

http://www.aboutus.org/CandlesTicker.com

Contact: Ali Ulvi Hicbikmaz

LOL

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

correct me if i am wrong but is it not the profiler that does the cookie checks? if so all traffic has to pass through the profiler and therefore is intercepted whether you accept the new contract or not,

hmm, interesting for those of us who do not intend to accept it, as we will not have given BT permission to do anything different with our traffic i feel some legal letters heading to BT the moment they start messing with traffic

peter

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Have a look at the privacy policy http://www.britishbulls.com/Privacy.asp

They use a firm called Tribalfusion for the pop under ads

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribal_Fusion_(Ad_Network)

Pop under ads to stop which subvert pop-up blocking software., puts software on people's computers.. hmm now why does that sound familiar.

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I'M STILL HERE.

I just get so angry about how much spin Kent and his mob keep putting on things. He may well think we are becoming less vocal, but I just don't see it like that. I think some of us just feel that there is not much more we can do at the moment and are waiting to see what the ISP's and PHORM do next.

Nearly 15,000 people have kindly taken the time to sign the petition I setup on the PM's website, I would submit that there are more people concerned about this issue than Kent gives credit for, but then it does seem to be in his interests to paint us as a vocal and vociferous minority, and I'm sure if he can get away with it, the next stage will be to try and portray us as a 'lunatic fringe'.

This issue is just so important to me that for the first time in my life I feel strongly enough to consider joining the protest on the 16th July. This might not sound like much, but then I'm just an ordinary bloke (Who happens to work in IT and so understands the impact of this), I've never protested in my life. The thoughts of it even scare me a little, but I don't want to be one of those people who sits on the sofa and complains without at least trying to do something. I've booked the time off work and look forward to getting the details on the protest.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I'd love to be able to go to the protest, but I've just realised the futility of having a BSc in Microbiology without any lab experience. So I shall probably be flipping burgers in McDonalds or something on the date :(

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Hmm on doing some diggin on Tribalfusion it seems they're linked in with back door trojans, along with their adware/spyware cookies.

http://siteadvisor.hk/sites/tribalfusion.com

Wonder if Kent is calling in favours from his old virus peddling buddies.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Ok, I get a message from my virus software that somone is trying to connect remotely to my PC.

So I check the logs....

I have had over 200 attempts to access my PC, all randomly selected from about 20 IPS*, all trying different ports.

My logs contain a total of 30 attempts IN A YEAR, then over 200 in 4 hours!!! WTF?

Anyone else record anything strange today?

* I've checked the IPs on Ripe, and there are common factors: 1/. about half are within VMs Network 2/. a quarter from Germany 3/. a quarter from the Ukraine