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KillerCroc1 11-04-2019 16:25

Virgin Media DNS
 
hey guys im using the virgin media public dns for gaming on the ps4 and pc but the ping is still pretty low same with google and cloudflare i was wondering if virgin have and dns servers just for gaming and if not what are your recomendations :)

SirThomas 11-04-2019 16:55

Re: Virgin Media DNS
 
DNS won't make any difference for gaming - Only web browsing. Latency isn't affected by DNS server settings.

How high is the latency you're seeing out to Google (8.8.8.8), for example?

Regardless, it certainly won't hurt to set the WAN DNS on your router to 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8.
Virgin servers aren't that fantastic.

Tom

spiderplant 11-04-2019 17:01

Re: Virgin Media DNS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SirThomas (Post 35990908)
Regardless, it certainly won't hurt to set the WAN DNS on your router to 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8.

It might do if you have a V6 box. Some functions of the V6, such as Netflix, rely on you using the VM DNS servers.

SirThomas 11-04-2019 17:13

Re: Virgin Media DNS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35990910)
It might do if you have a V6 box. Some functions of the V6, such as Netflix, rely on you using the VM DNS servers.

Seems fine on my V6 setup :)

Tom

BenMcr 11-04-2019 17:32

Re: Virgin Media DNS
 
Depends where you set it I guess. Setting DNS on a specific device won't affect it.

Set it in a 3rd party router so all devices pick it up automatically and you could. All depends what the V6 looks at at the time and for what reason.

General Maximus 12-04-2019 12:35

Re: Virgin Media DNS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerCroc1 (Post 35990907)
hey guys im using the virgin media public dns for gaming on the ps4 and pc but the ping is still pretty low same with google and cloudflare i was wondering if virgin have and dns servers just for gaming and if not what are your recomendations :)

you should never use VM's dns if you don't have to. You pay for the privilege of being able to use a proper router for a reason!

Kushan 12-04-2019 18:38

Re: Virgin Media DNS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35990915)
Depends where you set it I guess. Setting DNS on a specific device won't affect it.

Set it in a 3rd party router so all devices pick it up automatically and you could. All depends what the V6 looks at at the time and for what reason.

From what little I've used Netflix on this box, it's not worth it anyway. Dedicated netflix app or even casting is better.

BenMcr 12-04-2019 19:00

Re: Virgin Media DNS
 
What issues have you had? For me it's exactly the same as on my Smart TV, so I tend to use them interchangeably depending on which remote I'm using.

Sephiroth 13-04-2019 13:07

Re: Virgin Media DNS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35990910)
It might do if you have a V6 box. Some functions of the V6, such as Netflix, rely on you using the VM DNS servers.

No they don’t - certainly not Netflix.

spiderplant 13-04-2019 16:06

Re: Virgin Media DNS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35991127)
No they don’t - certainly not Netflix.

Yes they do. The Netflix keys are obtained via a host address that only exists in the VM servers. If you have V6 Netlflix working with a different DNS server, the box must have picked up the keys before the DNS was changed.

Here's an example of the problem:
https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...3373471/page/3

There are also other functions of the V6 that depend on the VM DNS.

General Maximus 13-04-2019 19:17

Re: Virgin Media DNS
 
well that is just **** and one of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard of. They are just causing themselves more problems.

Sephiroth 13-04-2019 20:37

Re: Virgin Media DNS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35991145)
Yes they do. The Netflix keys are obtained via a host address that only exists in the VM servers. If you have V6 Netlflix working with a different DNS server, the box must have picked up the keys before the DNS was changed.

Here's an example of the problem:
https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...3373471/page/3

There are also other functions of the V6 that depend on the VM DNS.

May I check on something? Is Netflix via V6 delivered over the Coax or over the Ethernet link? If the former, then I'd have to give way on this; if the latter, then I'm right because my router's DNS has never been VMB's.

spiderplant 13-04-2019 21:32

Re: Virgin Media DNS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35991159)
well that is just **** and one of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard of. They are just causing themselves more problems.

I agree. It's done for commonality with other Liberty Global countries, but it's very poor system design IMO.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35991175)
May I check on something? Is Netflix via V6 delivered over the Coax or over the Ethernet link? If the former, then I'd have to give way on this; if the latter, then I'm right because my router's DNS has never been VMB's.

It is delivered through the broadband. If you are right that you have never been on VM DNS, I can't explain why it is working. (Feel free to PM me your V6 serial number if you want me to investigate)

Sephiroth 13-04-2019 21:56

Re: Virgin Media DNS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35991196)
I agree. It's done for commonality with other Liberty Global countries, but it's very poor system design IMO.


It is delivered through the broadband. If you are right that you have never been on VM DNS, I can't explain why it is working. (Feel free to PM me your V6 serial number if you want me to investigate)

A year ago the V6 was installed onto my existing LAN which has always used Google DNS. Thanks for the offer, it's not of great importance in the scheme of things even though I'm technically inquisitive.

KillerCroc1 15-04-2019 15:34

Re: Virgin Media DNS
 
Thank you all for the response :) its not virgin but its the servers that playstation (sony ) own they are just crap ;)


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