Re: Should the UK invoke Article 50?
 

We can add tariffs on their services, I'm not sure you understand just how massive the UK economy is. Somehow someone has eroded any faith or belief you have in your country. Let me tell you on behalf of 17plus million leave voters- you're going to be ok, we won't let you down, we won't leave you behind, we love you and we love Britain. It's going to be awkward and uncomfortable for a little while. Stick together work hard and we will be ok!

Re: Should the UK invoke Article 50?
 

No they don't. They have a Trade Agreement not access to the single market.

There's a difference, look it up.

Re: Post-Brexit Thread
 

I'm certain Aldi and Lidl will want to close all their UK stores immediately. All that UK growth and profit they're enjoying in this market won't be missed at all...

Re: Post-Brexit Thread
 

:D:D:D:D Don't worry, if they do Tesco/ASDA/Sainsburys/Morrisons/Home Bargains etc will be happy to sell us their goods instead. As a market to sell to the UK is unmatched and irreplaceable.

Re: Post-Brexit Thread
 

If Scotland gets another referendum I think they'll win it. They're getting a lot of support from previous No voters and one of the most Unionist papers in Scotland the last time around, The Daily Record, is backing another one this time.

Re: Post-Brexit Thread
 

I hope you do get your referendum, and millions and millions of Brexit Leave voters will congratulate whatever you decide. None of this nasty sour grapes you and your failed remainers have been dishing out!

Re: Post-Brexit Thread
 

At least UKIP are essentially a dead party with Farage leading the way. Top bloke he is, getting caught telling fibs and being made to look like a tool. Who am I kidding, its hardly the first time he's told lies. Just hoping that one was the final nail. Absolute donkey of a bloke. Scares me anyone could actually think voting for a ****** like that would bring change.

'I never said that' - Nigel Farage "Since the beginning of time"
'Someone tried to assassinate me' 'But I was caught lying again..'

They should tag this next to his name every time he's on TV.

Re: Should the UK invoke Article 50?
 

Yes they do

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...ss-to-the-sin/

We do not need to be a member of the single market to have access ,look it up

Re: Post-Brexit Thread
 

Can someone please explain this.

I was told today, that the country that is most worried is Poland, and the polish people that are here already.

Now that we have voted to get out of Europe. Surely that IF Polish residents are here. It wont effect them ?

Re: Post-Brexit Thread
 

When you have some time do check the labels on various goods from those outlets.

See where things like ketchup and lemon juice in Asda, or Smash are made and processed. Maybe have a look at how much of the beef is Irish. We are connected to the EU in far more ways than the obvious. A ton of our goods go through the EU at some point in the supply chain.

As far as unmatched and irreplaceable are going you are joking, right? I would speculate the USA and China are somewhat larger markets, neither has a free trade deal with the EU or access to the common market.

The German car manufacturers will lobby Brussels hard, no question. They will also hit a lot of resistance. Bending the rules to accommodate us creates an existential issue for the EU. We don't match up as far as Germany's exporters go to the rest of the EU combined. We aren't irreplaceable, we aren't unmatched and we aren't greater than the rest of the EU combined.

If we go into negotiations with that frankly incredibly arrogant attitude we will leave with nothing. The EU would definitely love to have us trade freely with them, but not at any price.

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It won't be held until the SNP are quite sure they can win it, and there's not much that we can offer them to convince them to stay. Brexit has shown that dour economic arguments don't seem to carry much weight, and of course we aren't offering the status quo.

From their point of view both options carry risk. We at least previously had stability to offer them, and don't now.

Re: Post-Brexit Thread
 

Imagine if England won Euro 2016 now. You'd have to wonder what else is coming this year.

Is there any substance behind a company like Nissan closing its doors and putting ten thousand out of work when the UK does leave the EU and if any deals are just simply not good enough. Unsure of non EU exports.

Nissan constantly exports via Tyne dock around Europe I expect

Re: Should the UK invoke Article 50?
 

I don't think you understand how massively positive our balance of payments on services is with the EU.

You know, that same argument that keeps being used to claim the EU will be falling over themselves to have a free trade agreement over goods.

A large part of our services exported to the EU are financial ones. Even without tariffs there are barriers.

Passporting is a very, very big deal. We have extremely privileged access to the Eurozone's financial services markets.

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Yes. Why would you maintain manufacturing in a country that's pretty expensive to manufacture in anyway, along with having the products it produces be more expensive due to import tariffs when you can simply move the production to Eastern Europe, pay less to manufacture and pay no import tariffs?

Re: Should the UK invoke Article 50?
 

When put like that it sounds like absolute madness that Sunderland got a landslide Leave vote. From this perspective I don't really understand a great lot but it appears they've potentially voted themselves out of jobs in a game of chance or hope etc. All I see is the word uncertainty being thrown all over. If it comes off and we do better they can celebrate but if it goes tits up then 'ah tough luck'

I honestly don't think people in said areas got enough information on the potential risks. I mean without some googling I would've been left with no information at all. I got that Cameron leaflet and that's about it. That only further adds to the argument that Remain made an arse of things.

Got posts flying around about some kid that voted leave because lulz.. Didn't expect it to happen. Absolute bell end.

I see a lot of 'we're going to negotiate this and that' but no guarantee that any of it will be any better if not worse than we already had.

Re: Post-Brexit Thread
 

It's not even been a day since the vote and remainers are calling for change and this and that while still slinging doom and gloom, are they really that dense to not understand that it was exactly that superior scaremongering attitude that cost them the vote. Nearly everyone I have spoken too including a few that voted remain have all criticised the remain campaign and even after polls showed it wasn't working they stuck with it and increased the scare mongering.

The UK is not unique or irreplaceable to the EU but pretending we're on the same level as Norway is ridiculous. We have long standing trade with many countries and company's within those countries and they weren't trading with us because we were a member of the EU they were trading because we could offer what they needed at the right price that hasn't changed and that's why business all over the EU is telling the politicians they want free trade to continue between the UK and the EU.

What happens next is going to take time and needs calm constructive people to negotiate it not knee jerk reactionaries. Remain need to accept the result and get behind the UK in making sure we get the best deal we can. As for the ludicrous assertion that it was "selfish over 50's" that swung this I am not over 50 nor is my wife and after looking into it I decided to vote leave not for me but for my kids and their future. Being selfish I'd have voted remain as for my personal circumstances remain was the safe bet but looking at the future and the likely economic troubles the EU will face I wasn't prepared to sign my kids up for that.

The UK is a great country with a great people and it not only has a future outside the EU but it has a good future being more involved in the whole world and a more secure future that will be a benefit. It's time for some people to stop talking this country down and continuing a failed campaign and accept the path that's been chosen.

Re: Post-Brexit Thread
 

I am not Scottish nor do I live in Scotland. It isn't 'my' referendum. Also I have hardly been nasty.

They have access to it in terms of being able to trade with it but not being in it. Being inside is different. It means everyone can operate within a common system, regulatory framework, employment market and so on.