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Mick 10-02-2020 10:32

Coronavirus
 
BREAKING: Coronavirus cases in the UK double due to ‘super spreader’ bringing 8 confirmed Coronavirus victims in Britain.

  • The global number of deaths is 910, with 908 in China, including an American and a Japanese person
  • A total of 97 people died of coronavirus in China on Sunday - the largest in a single day since the outbreak was detected in mid-December, denting optimism the death control measures are fighting the outbreak
  • On Sunday, 3,062 new virus cases were reported in China - a 15% increase from the day before, bringing the total to 40,171, including 27 foreigners
  • More than 360 cases have been confirmed outside mainland China, with two deaths
  • The total number of deaths exceeds the 774 killed by the 2002/3 SARS outbreak
  • Confirmed cases of the new virus vastly exceed the 8,098 infected by SARS

    Source: Sky News: https://news.sky.com/story/uk-corona...itive-11930618

papa smurf 10-02-2020 10:58

Re: Coronavirus
 
I have noticed that the price of face masks has gone from dirt cheap to quite expensive, i'm not saying they will do any good just noticing the price.

mrmistoffelees 10-02-2020 11:37

Re: Coronavirus
 
Absolute, complete overkill and sensationalism by the media on this.

The mortality rate is approximately 2%

Interesting dashboard here from John Hopkins

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

papa smurf 10-02-2020 11:50

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36024564)
Absolute, complete overkill and sensationalism by the media on this.

The mortality rate is approximately 2%

Interesting dashboard here from John Hopkins

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

That's around 140,000,000 globally if it gets out of hand.

mrmistoffelees 10-02-2020 12:01

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36024565)
That's around 140,000,000 globally if it gets out of hand.

The flu has caused approx. 10,000 deaths in the US alone this Ďseasoní

Letís have some perspective

Hugh 10-02-2020 12:08

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36024566)
The flu has caused approx. 10,000 deaths in the US alone this Ďseasoní

Letís have some perspective

In the latest flu season, about 0.05% of people who caught the flu have died from the virus - whilst it's early days yet, as we don't know how virulent this strain of coronavirus is, at this time, the mortality rate is 2%, or 40 times the fatality rate.

denphone 10-02-2020 12:17

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36024564)
Absolute, complete overkill and sensationalism by the media on this.

The mortality rate is approximately 2%

Interesting dashboard here from John Hopkins

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

We had this with the bird flu if l rightly remember.

mrmistoffelees 10-02-2020 12:43

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36024567)
In the latest flu season, about 0.05% of people who caught the flu have died from the virus - whilst it's early days yet, as we don't know how virulent this strain of coronavirus is, at this time, the mortality rate is 2%, or 40 times the fatality rate.


And whilst I don't have the exact figures to hand, I believe it to be something like 95% of deaths are not directly attributable to this strain of virus, it's due to complications of pre existing medical conditions.

If that 95% is correct that would lead to a 45 deaths from 40,573 confirmed cases that would give a mortality rate of 0.110% not lmuch different to nfluenza

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36024569)
We had this with the bird flu if l rightly remember.

See also, Swine Flu

downquark1 10-02-2020 13:40

Re: Coronavirus
 
Even if the fatalities are not that high:

1) the NHS is incredibly over burdened at the moment
2) epidemics cause economic damage from mass sick leave
3) if the virus secures are permanent circulation this will be a yearly occurrence

Pierre 10-02-2020 14:10

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36024564)
Absolute, complete overkill and sensationalism by the media on this.

The mortality rate is approximately 2%

Interesting dashboard here from John Hopkins

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

I heard that the mortality rate was actually just 1%.

Itís dangerous for elderly, very young and those with respiratory complications.

Taf 10-02-2020 14:17

Re: Coronavirus
 
I know of 2 GP surgeries that have been shut (one due to the virus being detected in a staff member, one as a precaution). This is going to cause hardship.

papa smurf 10-02-2020 14:22

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36024577)
I know of 2 GP surgeries that have been shut (one due to the virus being detected in a staff member, one as a precaution). This is going to cause hardship.

We have this locally

Grimsby Chinese takeaway closed after owners put themselves in quarantine to ease coronavirus fears after trip to China

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/n...-after-3828255

mrmistoffelees 10-02-2020 14:35

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36024578)
We have this locally

Grimsby Chinese takeaway closed after owners put themselves in quarantine to ease coronavirus fears after trip to China

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/n...-after-3828255

Wow, fourteen days of business lost due to media hysteria....

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36024576)
I heard that the mortality rate was actually just 1%.

Itís dangerous for elderly, very young and those with respiratory complications.

If my figures are correct (which reminds me to find them and post) it's less than that.


and too your second line. As is any respiratory condition. such as, the flu

(not trying to teach you to suck eggs, just emphasis)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36024575)
Even if the fatalities are not that high:

1) the NHS is incredibly over burdened at the moment
2) epidemics cause economic damage from mass sick leave
3) if the virus secures are permanent circulation this will be a yearly occurrence

1) Yes, and a great deal of the burden is caused by those who misuse it. Those for example that go to their GP's for a cold when all they need to do is follow sensible guidance.
2) Fair point
3) Big IF

downquark1 10-02-2020 15:21

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36024576)
I heard that the mortality rate was actually just 1%.

Itís dangerous for elderly, very young and those with respiratory complications.

This was an early projection from very incomplete data. The doctor who tried to warn the Chinese people about it has allegedly died from it and he was quite young.

denphone 10-02-2020 15:27

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36024577)
I know of 2 GP surgeries that have been shut (one due to the virus being detected in a staff member, one as a precaution). This is going to cause hardship.

Brighton have closed a GP surgery.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51447761


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