Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I'd be in if someone wants to provide beer and a bed. :D
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
..the point is there is no alternative but fight justly from within the established rules of the system..
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I meant the point of having these people who are supposed to be working for us, when they clearly don't. |
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..and the reason I have spoiled so many ballot papers :D |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
OK the BT AGM sounds like the perfect date for a demo and the Barbican is easy to get to. We will need to organise this properly because we need to get as many people there as possible or it will have zero effect.
I can try and get press and media coverage through my contacts (I don't think it will be a problem) and I will see if I can get some people like Richard Clayton to turn up and do a "soapbox" speech, make it a day long event. If we are going to do this we are going to need a "team" to help organise it all, it certainly isn't something I can do on my own. So lets get started on the organising. Alexander Hanff |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
one equation for you...
numbers = impact I'll commit to bringing 20 with me.. Even If I have to pay their travel and rope in my family.. We all switched from BT and live in London.. |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I've just done some analysis for Rob on the webwise.bt.com contact page. It seems they were setting a Netegrity Siteminder Session ID cookie, and other cookies with Rob's email address and date of last visit.
That falls foul of PECR Regulations (regulation 6). Proud to say Dephormation's logging feature captured the cookies, and the redirections :) which would provide evidence to support any complaint. BT have since changed their www.webwise.bt.com and webwise.bt.com contact pages. They now link to a form on the bt.custhelp.com site (run by IBM in the UK). Which - of course - if you had the right legal advice in the first place a change wouldn't be necessary. Has anyone heard or seen the ICO lately? |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
He's waiting in the wings to hear talking vegetables.. Complain!
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Or words to that effect. It will be sent out tomorrow. Of course I doubt that the ICO would do the above, but maybe they might write to the ISPs and tell them to ensure it is not so carefully selected in their own favour? Hank |
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and he has failed to even conceptualize or address website owners copyright and consent. ;D
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ok first press release on the demo has just been sent out. So I am moving on this. A website will be setup on www.nodpi.org in the next week which will cover the event. I am going to try and get Dr Clayton, Mr Bohm and a Non Phorm ISP representative to give guest speeches at the event. I might even see if the Earl of Northesk would be willing to come out and show support and if I can find a contact for him, Sir Tim.
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Are you saying that they fell foul of PECR but have now sorted it by moving to the IBM UK managed service? Or is your analysis that they are falling foul, even now, with this new set up? It's absolutely shameful that they've now changed the set up after again being caught in the wrong. When oh when are they going to hold their hands up and tear the agreement with Phorm for Webwise in half?? (ok, maybe not with their hands up at the same time, unless they want to make a positive PR stunt out of it LOL) Hank |
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btcom.userName = (email address) btcom.dateVisited = (date of visit) SMSESSION = (Netegrity site minder encrypted cookie) .. plus a couple of Java and PHP session cookies. By setting such cookies without specifying their purpose or allowing a user to refuse storage they broke PERC Reg 6. The Netegrity Siteminder cookie is particularly interesting; I believe it contains encrypted user details and could be intended for 'federated identity management' (ie, allowing you to be identified across a range of sites). Then they covered it up by scrapping the contact form, and linking to IBM UK bt.custhelp.com instead. Pete PS As for their new contact form, if someone wants to make a complaint using the new forms (using the Dephormation logging feature) ... send me a PM and I'll review the results. |
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