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OLD BOY 20-05-2022 17:35
Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36122996)
So it’s the Labour Government’s fault for the global financial crisis of 2008 but this Government are a victim of circumstance at every turn.

Utterly utterly laughable, OB. So ridiculous it’d be impossible to parody.

The fact the UK Labour Party are marketing themselves as slightly less shit than the Tories is irrelevant to the fact Johnson is leading the party and the country in a car crash manner.
The crash itself, of course, was not Labour’s fault. But spending all the money during the good times while failing to put anything away for the bad times was reckless. It took the austerity measures to put us towards where we should have been, and just as well, otherwise the Treasury would not have been able to make all those payouts in respect of the Covid measures.

jfman 20-05-2022 18:06
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36123012)
The crash itself, of course, was not Labour’s fault. But spending all the money during the good times while failing to put anything away for the bad times was reckless. It took the austerity measures to put us towards where we should have been, and just as well, otherwise the Treasury would not have been able to make all those payouts in respect of the Covid measures.
:D

Pray, tell, OB just where in the national accounts does it show savings in austerity paid for Covid financial support given every single year since austerity began the national debt as went up as a percentage of GDP?

They really pulled the wool over your eyes with the pretence that a national budget and a household budget are the same didn’t they?

Mick 20-05-2022 22:22
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This topic needs get back on track, now.

1andrew1 21-05-2022 06:54
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Labour has called on Boris Johnson to "urgently explain" why he met Sue Gray to discuss her long-awaited report into lockdown-breaking parties in Downing Street.

The pair discussed where Ms Gray believed the Metropolitan Police were with the inquiry, and Whitehall's understanding of where the police were on interviews, Sky News understands.

The revelation of an undisclosed meeting is likely to trigger surprise given the forthcoming report has repeatedly been described as independent.
https://news.sky.com/story/sue-gray-...tands-12617829

Now the Metropolitan Police has reported, a reminder that a Parliamentary investigation begins now into whether whether Johnson misled MPs over Partygate.
https://news.sky.com/story/downing-s...ygate-12595185

Mick 21-05-2022 07:03
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36123042)
https://news.sky.com/story/sue-gray-...tands-12617829

Now the Metropolitan Police has reported, a reminder that a Parliamentary investigation begins now into whether whether Johnson misled MPs over Partygate.
https://news.sky.com/story/downing-s...ygate-12595185
Talking of misleading parliament, didn’t curry and beer organiser, Starmer mislead parliament when he was forced to backtrack on accusations made in the House of Commons, about Johnson and the BBC?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2062341.html

Sephiroth 21-05-2022 09:15
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36123042)
https://news.sky.com/story/sue-gray-...tands-12617829

Now the Metropolitan Police has reported, a reminder that a Parliamentary investigation begins now into whether whether Johnson misled MPs over Partygate.
[url]https://news.sky.com/story/downing-street-parties-boris-johnson-to-face-investigation-into-whether-he-misled-mps-about-partygate-12595185[/url]
That link dates back to 22 April!

papa smurf 21-05-2022 09:22
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That link dates back to 22 April!
Hate has no sell by date;)

Sephiroth 21-05-2022 09:32
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Hate has no sell by date;)
But twisted knickers do. Anyway, roll on Sue Gray.

papa smurf 21-05-2022 09:39
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36123048)
But twisted knickers do. Anyway, roll on Sue Gray.
Looks like her boss has been to see her https://news.sky.com/story/sue-gray-...tands-12617829

Mick 21-05-2022 10:07
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36123049)
Looks like her boss has been to see her https://news.sky.com/story/sue-gray-...tands-12617829
He commissioned the report, has asked for full transparency, just another desperate media ploy by idiots trying to oust the PM. I don’t really think any report will be detrimental to Johnson’s premiership, because lurking in the background is a beer and curry organiser, potentially also facing a fine.

Damien 21-05-2022 10:32
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36123051)
He commissioned the report, has asked for full transparency, just another desperate media ploy by idiots trying to oust the PM. I don’t really think any report will be detrimental to Johnson’s premiership, because lurking in the background is a beer and curry organiser, potentially also facing a fine.
It's from his side that they're saying he simply asked for full transparency. Since Johnson isn't exactly known for his honesty that'll be treated with caution.

Besides the wisest thing to do with an Independent report is to avoid secret meetings with who you tasked to make it. It's going to raise eyebrows even if it was innocent.

jfman 21-05-2022 10:43
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If he lies to his wives, lies (and denies) about his children, lies in his leadership campaign, lies in the party manifesto, lies to Parliament, lies to our international partners - it's quite astonishing that the people who think we are better off without Johnson are the idiots.

A Tory leader of even moderate competence, with limited credibility, right now would surely be better to lead us through the cost of living crisis?

They're not a football team - the personal affinity some seem to have for Johnson (especially given his personal flaws outlined in sentence one) is quite astonishing. What makes people believe he will lie to everyone else but not them?

This is the man that had two versions of the story ready to go in favour of remaining and leaving the EU until he decided which was the most politically expedient for his career aspirations.

Julian 21-05-2022 11:37
Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36123049)
Looks like her boss has been to see her https://news.sky.com/story/sue-gray-...tands-12617829
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The BBC understands that Ms Gray requested the meeting with Mr Johnson over a month ago "to clarify her intentions" for what would happen after the completion of the police inquiry.
FROM HERE ;)

Sephiroth 21-05-2022 12:05
Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36123055)
If he lies to his wives, lies (and denies) about his children, lies in his leadership campaign, lies in the party manifesto, lies to Parliament, lies to our international partners - it's quite astonishing that the people who think we are better off without Johnson are the idiots.

A Tory leader of even moderate competence, with limited credibility, right now would surely be better to lead us through the cost of living crisis?

They're not a football team - the personal affinity some seem to have for Johnson (especially given his personal flaws outlined in sentence one) is quite astonishing. What makes people believe he will lie to everyone else but not them?

This is the man that had two versions of the story ready to go in favour of remaining and leaving the EU until he decided which was the most politically expedient for his career aspirations.
Pretty much so.

Mick 21-05-2022 12:23
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36123053)
It's from his side that they're saying he simply asked for full transparency. Since Johnson isn't exactly known for his honesty that'll be treated with caution.

Besides the wisest thing to do with an Independent report is to avoid secret meetings with who you tasked to make it. It's going to raise eyebrows even if it was innocent.
Well, we have a leader of the opposition struggling with honesty too, so Labour’s ploy to stoke this up as a scandal, is a bit pathetic.


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