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Pierre 14-02-2021 20:40

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As an Engineer, I’d love to see this happen. As someone that lives in the real world......this will never happen .......ever.

'Boris's burrow': Tunnel linking Scotland and N Ireland backed by Scottish secretary Alister Jack
http://news.sky.com/story/boriss-bur...-jack-12217797

1andrew1 14-02-2021 20:57

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The economic case is lower than UK to the mainland and the railway gauges in the UK and Island of Ireland are different. It sounds like another Boris Island project although I like the audacity of it!

Sephiroth 14-02-2021 21:11

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36070684)
The economic case is lower than UK to the mainland and the railway gauges in the UK and Island of Ireland are different. It sounds like another Boris Island project although I like the audacity of it!

I didn't know that - it's a bit of a killer unless the train to/from NI is a shuttle service or there is a gauge interchange station (change tains)!

TheDaddy 14-02-2021 21:12

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Didn't a load/ most of unused WWII ordnance get dumped in the sea between NI and Scotland making such a project completely infeasible, still it's another opportunity for bozo to stick Boris in front of something else beginning with B so it can't be missed, the infantilisation of British politics and press is almost complete

Mr K 14-02-2021 21:15

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Its going to be grim/raining either side of that tunnel, so can't see the point ;)
( and I thought NI was already in the UK? Might change in the future i guess thanks to us pressing our own self destruct Brexit button).

papa smurf 14-02-2021 21:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36070684)
The economic case is lower than UK to the mainland and the railway gauges in the UK and Island of Ireland are different. It sounds like another Boris Island project although I like the audacity of it!

They could just half fill the tunnel with water and use boats;)

Damien 14-02-2021 21:58

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It doesn't seem a very useful place to put to be honest. It's obviously where there is the smallest part of the sea but infrastructure wise it seems a long way around.

Hom3r 15-02-2021 11:01

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36070688)
Didn't a load/ most of unused WWII ordnance get dumped in the sea between NI and Scotland making such a project completely infeasible, still it's another opportunity for bozo to stick Boris in front of something else beginning with B so it can't be missed, the infantilisation of British politics and press is almost complete


Yep, and this will detemine the route

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36070684)
The economic case is lower than UK to the mainland and the railway gauges in the UK and Island of Ireland are different. It sounds like another Boris Island project although I like the audacity of it!


Not an issue as you just have train terminals on either side and just use these to carry Lorries/cars just like the Euro tunnel.

Chris 15-02-2021 11:10

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Variable gauge systems exist that would allow passenger services to run easily from Belfast to Glasgow or anywhere else in the British network. Such systems are in widespread use on the continent for passenger services. Trains don’t even need to stop. Heavy freight is more challenging but the engineering isn’t insurmountable.

Although this will never happen.

Sephiroth 15-02-2021 11:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36070729)
Variable gauge systems exist that would allow passenger services to run easily from Belfast to Glasgow or anywhere else in the British network. Such systems are in widespread use on the continent for passenger services. Trains don’t even need to stop. Heavy freight is more challenging but the engineering isn’t insurmountable.

Although this will never happen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_gauge

Halcyon 22-02-2021 11:08

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Very unlikely to happen, but interesting project. :tu:

Pierre 10-03-2021 14:13

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https://eandt.theiet.org/content/art...tm_term=795546

heero_yuy 10-03-2021 15:32

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Major difference here to the chunnel is that was dug in soft chalk using TBMs* whereas, if my O-Level geography serves, the rocks here are either Basalts or very old, hard, Lewisian. This would necessitate much drilling and blasting. Expensive and slow.

*Tunnel Boring Machine

pip08456 10-03-2021 15:41

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Yet it is seriously being looked into as well as an alternative bridge option.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56341013

1701-e 10-03-2021 16:08

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Political stunt to distract from other failings in dealing with NI. Better investing in NI infrastructure by upgrading A5 and rail extensions. Baloney from the bluffer.


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