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Alleged comments from Jose about Wenger are embarrassing. Of course they were followed up by class from Arsene but I don't think Wengers one to be messed with although he is more than capable of doing himself harm than anyone else.

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Seems to be typically naff journalism. There's no denying he has a nack for everything anti-wenger though.

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Well why can't MU play like this every week as they might even have a chance of winning the title then.;)

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My Gooner neighbour was rushed to hospital today after a wasp landed on his face. It didn't sting him, luckily I got it first with my shovel..

COYS :D

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FOYS.

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So do Chelsea need to sack Conte now like they sacked Jose? Now they've established it was Jose and Conte's fault. :rolleyes:

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They will be stupid if they do as it will take time to fix Chelsea's structural team problems IMO.

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Well if the results carry on like that Baroness Brady might have to see Mr Bilic sooner rather then Later.

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;) I don't think we're that evil....yet. It's the same problems as last year, and certain players that should have gone are still there. I'm desperate for Zouma to come back more than anything at the moment, cos I think (and hope) that he'll improve us at the back. But I have to be honest and say that I can't help but be impressed by Liverpool and the gooners v us, and the way they're playing. Both totally bossed us. Early days though, and at least the real MUFC, Maidenhead United, are giving me some pleasure this season :angel:

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Sam Allardyce likely to be sacked in the morning. FA has summoned him for an inquest with regards to:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...dyce-for-sale/

Well and truly cocked up. Pretty embarrasing to make jokes about the old manager too.

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Its not over. Some monumental allegations coming shortly regarding Premier League bribes and managers. Dodgy deals etc.

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FA start investigation on Allardyce. Unknown whether the decision to remove him will be made today. If the Telegraph really do have more involving other managers and teams then we're at the start of a large storm.

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Pardew has been installed as the favourite to take over the England job..

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If the Telegraph are to be believed, the FA shouldn't be installing anyone as England manager till this is done with. Pardew to be implicated whilst at Newcastle isn't far fetched :erm:

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Sam Allardyce has been sacked.....

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I would still be surprised if they fired him. The FA hasn't shown that kind of mettle in recent years.

EDIT: I could not have timed that worse.

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Ha, Fat Sham is on his bike. For anyone that has sympathy. Don't. A lot of West Ham supporters pointed out his dodgy doings at their club with regards to getting players to switch agents.

Roll on the next suspects.

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Apparently he has been sacked for breach of contract.

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Another quality appointment by the Fools Association...

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Actually it's the Football Asso...oh I see what you did there.

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Apparently Nigel Pearson will be available soon. :D

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No thanks old bean as l nominate you as our next England manager.:D.

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Gazza is definetly open to offers at the moment...

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10 other managers apparently. Wonder who they'll be.

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Pardew, McClaren and Joe Kinnear of course. Expect Dennis Wise to appear somewhere to complete the former Newcastle boardroom.

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Whilst he has been very stupid, why do "newspapers" engage in this sort of activity?

There really isn't a quality newspaper anymore.

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A Juicy story. Be fair though, people like Allardyce have gone a bit too long to not be called out on it again. No one else will do it.

Better yet. I really think the FA should consider having a season long interim manager and approaching Arsene Wenger for the permanent position. If Sam Allardyce is your best fit last time round then what's really available now? Steve Bruce, Pardew? Be serious, Pardew is probably the next guy outed for being dodgy. Can probably blame that on Newcastle undoubtedly. Famous for allowing Dennis Wise to throw his mates backhanders via Newcastle's finances. Notably signing two unknown lads for a total of 6 million with conveniently astronomical agent fees.

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Sadly any decent journalism we once had has long gone Julian and that is why l never buy a newspaper anymore.

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Allardyce should have never been made England manager but alas what else can you expect from the nincompoops of Soho Square.

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Because if they didn't then the MP's expenses fiddles would never have come to light for a start.

The Telegraph has been running this investigation for over 10 months since being informed of the numbers of managers and agents involved, Allardyce was merely caught up in the overall investigation.
I see nobody mentioned 'Harry' in the list of possible suspects. ;)

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The Telegraph are justified in this expose IMO. It's in the public interest if the manager of the National Team is willing to engage in dodgy dealings.

And there are plenty of decent papers left: FT, The Times, most of the broadsheet American papers.

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All behind the paywall where the vast majority of people cannot access them...

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for what its worth I still class the Telegraph a a quality paper, along with the Times and the Grouniad. :)

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That's probably why they're good. Because they get paid a flat fee for access to content they're not encouraged to produce click-bait content. They get customers by having good content over the course of a month rather than trying to product as many pages as possible, attracting as many viewers as possible for as cheap as possible. It costs far less to do a 'Top 5 reasons why Game of Thrones is like the Labour party' than do a long-form piece about corruption in the link between the public and private sectors which no one will read.

Also journalism costs money. Advertising is not magic. One of the biggest mistakes of recent years was newspapers giving away content for free in the hope they would get some of the internet money.

Now you have hyper-partisan alternative news sources from the left (Canary etc) and the right (Breitbait) that have no connection to any idea of journalistic standard or much concern for what's actually true and it's turning us all into conspiracy theorists.

The Telegraph and The Guardian have become a lot more clickbaity IMO and have been firing a lot of journalists.

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Off course if you buy the hard copy of the Telegraph like I do then you don't get 'click baited'. ;)

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Ravel Morrison posts cryptic tweet presumably about Allardyce.

Guess he finally gets some form of Justice. Shame Mark Curtis goes generally unpunished. Wonder if Sham sues the Telegraph like he sued the BBC all those years ago. Plead innocent, apparently lawyered up then bottled it. Guilty as they come.

I feel for Ravel. He honestly looked like he was turning it round only to be utterly shafted by Allardyce, Nolan and Curtis. Utter *********.

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"entrapment has won" :LOL:

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Apparently he'll be getting a £1m pay off - not bad for one match in charge and an 'error of judgement' eh?...

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...-a7334636.html

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Always something with him. He'll be back in a job by Christmas, canvassing players to sign with his agent for squad roles. Knob.

As for England, Interim manager with Wenger the replacement in the long term. Get it done :D

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Alan Pardew is another of the favorites but with The Telegraph ready to name another 8 Premier League managers I suspect the FA will be wary. Wenger is one of the few who I would imagine is going to be one of the least likely to be implicated.

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Not as a manager he won't ,he's poison now and i doubt very much the FA will let him manage a club

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He's always been poison though, it's just now that it's a big scoop, the justice seeked by many for years has been dished out. But I wouldn't like to see him back in management, Allardyce and Curtis should be allowed nowhere near the game. Disgraceful, the pair of them.

The managers yet to outed weren't stung though, this all comes from the gob of super match fixing Pino so unless he or anyone else can uncover or provide evidence other than his gob then it might just turn into nothing.

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I agree totally ,i would suggest the only job in football available to him would be as an agent ,but that would be like giving an arsonist a box of matches

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Genius :D

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Great game at Celtic Park.:cool:

Seems to have be a lot of missed/saved penalties last night and tonight.

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Wenger in charge of England. Are you having a laugh. I would go for Harry, or even Poch of Spurs. Look what he has done at Tottenham.

No the game is riddles in corruption. Look at Gobblelar, who took a back hander as a Keeper.

I think that Sam has kicked himself in the goolies, and no club will have him - could be abroad though.

The trouble is now there is so much money in football. And Agents are con artist anyway.

No its got be Harry for me.

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Harry, he has more skeletons in his cupboard than Fred West. :(

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Some pretty damning stuff on the way, Jimmy Floyd, Tommy Wright, Massimo the Leeds owner all outed tomorrow.

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Harry Redknapp's as corrupt as they come...

I must have missed the bit where Pochettino outdid Wenger? Has he caught up with titles? FA cups and so forth?

Away from the Champions League, 3 goal turnaround for Newcastle leaves Norwich stunned. http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...norwich/358229

Bold - Grobbelaar I assume? You weren't far off though :D

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Quite surprised how well Celtic played given their last match in Europe.

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Think Hampshire and his dealings there.

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Wenger pretty much ruled out the England job sometime ago. He believes the national team should be managed by that of its own nationality.

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The problem is that we are not really enamoured with a wonderful list of English candidates are we?..

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Or even 'endowed' ;)

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l must learn more words from my Oxford dictionary as l seem to be lacking somewhat compared to you old boy.:)

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Just leaving Old Trafford, I was certainly not 'enamoured' with that performance.:( :)

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Just seen the supposed list of 8 managers.

It included Alan Pardew, Steve Bruce, David Moyes and Redknapp. Ryan Giggs appears.

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Good grief the natives are getting rather restless pretty early in the season it seems.:D

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Not really, it just allowed me to use enamoured in the proper context. :p::D

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This is the full list of the alleged Premier League 8

Eric Black is first up then: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...-to-bribe-low/

I still have doubts, a few of them we'd all name every time. Giggs though? What deals could Giggs have possibly been involved in. Also worth noting Pardew had no control over transfers at Newcastle.

Lastly, this all comes from word of mouth from a disgraced match fixing agent and I'm unaware if there's actually any real evidence that isn't just word vs word. I know fine well some of them will have done it, just questioning the accuracy of this leak and if it's correct then whether some of them have actually done anything.

Eric Black is on video being nabbed I know but the Tele article constantly referred to Pagliara with terms like Pagliara said etc. So I'm not actually sure if there's any more evidence video wise.

*Ones in bold are the ones we're most likely to accept as dodgy anyway. It's a given. Redknapp was a certainty. The rest I'm unsure and I've never known much about Black to give a fair judgement.


Side note: There were 3 championship names also on the list but I'm unsure if the Telegraph had already outed the three. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...world-football

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No wonder British managers never succeed.....

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Good Ole cheeky Harry though eh, always up to something that bloke.

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A bit bit of a del boy as we know.

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I thought SAF was British? ;)

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He was a one off so l excluded the great man.

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Matt Busby, Bob Paisley, Bill Shankly, Brian Clough......

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But no one of that stature in the generally greed driven last two decades old boy apart from the one off SAF.

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It starts

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37524416 The game is on.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37526316

Redknapp confirmed then.

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Keep tricking out the stuff telegraph just like the other gutter press

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Harry got 1 million out of the Rio ferdinand transfer for aiding his development from terry brown, a totally illegal payment that was given to keep rednapp happy and his mouth shut and they both were so confident nothing would be done they both mentioned the payment in separate interviews

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There are weeks and weeks of this to go apparently.

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Any and every newspaper that had invested over 10 months in such a major investigation would do exactly the same, and that includes the Times.:rolleyes:

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If the Swans could finish better Liverpool would already be 4-0 down.:shocked:

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I quite agree, so no attempt to help clean the game up then. ;)

What should happen is they should be banned from every ground until they spill the beans completely. :)

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Jekyll and Hyde springs to mind again.

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Why? They haven't broken any laws AFAIK. :confused:

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Don't forget second halfs are often different from first halfs mind old boy.:D:D

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And Swansea should have equalised in the dying seconds, scraping wins like that is what it is all about though when May comes around.

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If we get into the top 4 then that would be pretty nice IMO.

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Being out of Europe altogether is a massive bonus.

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Indeed.

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Why don't MU throw it then?

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Did you watch the games they have played in Europe already this season, if they are not 'throwing it' they are doing a very good impression of doing so. :(

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Bobby Robson

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Good spot TD.:)

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I did and they didn't capitulate as they once did :confused: #progession lol

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No laws broken, no. But drip feeding snippets and denying clubs and the FA the ability to fully investigate the matter is at best very unhelpful.

I'm just disappointed that a previously quality publication is choosing to withhold information for perceived monetary gain. Having said that, the news industry is on its knees so their actions are understandably desperate.

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I'd never believe he was anyway. Even better being when he was sacked Newcastle started getting involved in dodgy dealings under Souness. The transfer of Jean Alain Boumsong was said to be one of the dodgiest deals in English football.

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Oh dear that was quite a calamity.:D

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Looks like they're throwing the league :LOL:

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If you cannot beat a side bottom of the league then for many MU fans that ain't good enough...

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Just back home from OT. What a bloody silly time to play match. Not too despondent, plenty of effort but poor finishing and their keeper having a blinder made the difference.

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Well at least your neighbours are cheering your afternoon up..

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Very sad to hear of David Herds passing, a real gent and an old fashioned 'centre forward. :(

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Yeah RIP

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Its always sad when revered ex footballers pass away.:(

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I am sure referees are blind. Arsenal's goal should not have stood. It handled inti the net.

And the ref must have seen the handball.

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Handball and offside. :rolleyes:

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Indeed but Wenger won't be moaning about that though l gather.

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Same old Arsenal, always cheating/ Probaly trainedby Maradona.

What l cannot understand - the referee was what - FIVE FEET from the Arsenal player and didn't ee it. Or even look at his linesman.

Maybe in the week of Bungs. Maybe the Telegraph should look at officials in the game.

Wasnt there an article recently from an ex ref who stated that referees have been censored for failure to spot things.

The PL and FA should look at this for blatant breach of the rules.

And before Arsenal fans start jumping up and down at say l am whinging. This was 'clearly handball'

Just think if it was a Spurs player doing that.

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Yeah, imagine if Burnley handballed it twice in their own box! See you missed that bit out.

Was instant Karma. Arsenal deserved that goal.

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It was HANDBALL. and he pushed the ball into the net - HANDBALL. Goal should NOT have stood

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Yup. 1 was for sure a penalty even if the other wasn't.

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He never pushed anything in. It deflected off his hand. Doesn't bother me if it stood though. I see it as redemption from the two clearly denied penalties for the same offence you're lamenting on about.

You're incapable of remaining unbiased as shown above by quickly labelling them cheaters etc. Arsenal are denied two clear penalties from handballs, they then score off a deflection via the hand. Seems like balance to me.