Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I thought this may be of interest.
This was the record on the wayback machine which keeps a history of web pages over time. When Phorm was 121Media This was a page advertising ContextPlus http://web.archive.org/web/200601101...ntextplus.com/ Does any of that that sound familiar? Next an interesting comment on a blog :- see the eweek reference http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/3067 Next the same page from the wayback machine when ContextPlus shut down http://web.archive.org/web/200606130...ntextplus.com/ And finally What f-secure says about it all http://www.f-secure.com/sw-desc/apropos.shtml Reading between the lines I see the same smoke and mirrors then that I see today from Phorm. They may have changed their name from 121Media, but they still seem to see everything in a different light to myself and many others. |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
the fact is online ads has always been small cos we got the tools to block every single one of them till now, they just do not get the msg we do not want adverts.
come on the power demand goes up every time there is a break in tv programming, why cos we all turn the kettle on or make more popcorn. |
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Another reading betwen the lines why they are not releasing the proof of the legal advice it is lacking on quality... On a better note F secure still has them down as malware/spyware so BT customers could have problems if their AV is F Secure cant see them changing phorms status from malware.. |
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www.five.tv - 30 hops www.bbc.co.uk - 12 hops www.itv.com - 10 hops www.thesun.co.uk - 10 hops www.channel4.com - 11 hops www.virginmedia.com - 9 hops www.pokerstars.com - 13 hops www.poketstars.net - 21 hops www.bt.com - 30 hops www.tiscali.co.uk - 30 hops www.diy.com - 11 hops www.homebase.co.uk - 30 hops www.pcworld.co.uk - 30 hops I am in Middlesbrough |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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The effect [of phorm] is similar to most adware solutions today — except it's installed on your ISP instead of your home computer. It has also come to our attention that Phorm was previously known as 121Media. 121Media was the company behind the brand PeopleOnPage. PeopleOnPage is the friendly wrapper around the advertisement engine ContextPlus. Another wrapper was called Apropos, which was one of the most widespread malicious rootkits of 2005. In 2006 the heat was too much and they shut it down. DNS registrars and website content supported that they were all in it together. Using multiple brands and not having full disclosure is common in the adware business. Renaming a company to clear a bad reputation has also been seen before. http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00001420.html I quite like the quote on the blog in one of the links posted by warescouse.... Their *demise* is like digging a hole in a landfill… some other garbage will come along and fill it up. I aso note that AVG classify phorm as 'lying just outside the boundaries of being classified as adware - they [phorm] adhere to the recommendations laid down by the Anti-Spyware Coalition requiring user consent. A user must accept the user licence agreement to make the service active and they allow users to unsubscribe from the service.' User consent? What user license agreement? I would suggest that AVG take the time to look a little closer at phorm rather than rely purely on public sources. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03...lassification/ |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I've had a letter from OFCOM indicating they are considering my complaint.
http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugi....php?6833.last Please, if you haven't done so already, now would be a good time to write to OFCOM complaining about Phorm; Address to write to; OFCOMGeneral topics to include;
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Can some kind soul remind me what were the list of definite Phorm sites?
I can recall a few .. ie Phorm.com Webwise.com OIX.com I'd like to deny cookie access to all of them .. not a total fix I know, but it's a start! |
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Do you think I would recommend running a program that would damage rather than cure? You'll have to trust me on this one because there are several tools I use daily to remove these parasites, part of my work involves providing a non - destructive virus removal service mostly to small businesses. All of them can be dangerous if handled in the wrong way. I don't think DaveTheJag's PC is absolutely riddled with infections as he would find it difficult to even post here and I'm sure that dozens of hijack this posts will not be either neccessary or be welcome on this forum. So confident am I that running combofix will remove this infection without any further damage that I'm willing to provide him with the name of my company (which I own) and a personal contact telephone number should he have any concerns. It would be irresponsible of me to post a cure for this problem without first knowing what I was talking about and I see identical problems every week. :) EDIT: Alternatives would be: Disable/Enable ActiveX Addons in Internet Options Programs tab / Manage Addons one by one until you find the culpret (or not) that's causing the problem. Run SpyBot S&D (as a clean up) but be very carefull when removing items that it suggests are problems. |
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For reference, I am using Firefox 2 and I have seen the behaviour whilst running Windows Vista, and with Ubuntu and SUSE linux distributions, and so I doubt it is a software related issue. Also, in the spirit of helping out, I've just posted this to the BBC Webwise feedback section. Sirs, Whilst using google to research the new spyware program called Webwise that BT and other major internet providers are planing to implement, the first thing I came across was your very own BBC beginner's guide to the internet. I am concerned that a prestigious public funded organisation such as yourselves are allowing your good name to be associated with such an intrusive and underhanded venture. In my mind, and in the minds of many others, Webwise will always be connected with the BBC and I hate to think that people will be duped into clicking YES on any pop-up invitation box simply because they have come to trust your advice and will assume that you are sponsoring the new scheme. Please, for the safety of many innocent webusers, the very webusers your site is aimed at informing, I am urging you to look further into this pernicious hijacking of your reputation. |
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Later today after my guests have left wil look up and post the names and other companies that traded under those names at that time.. |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I found this list of Webwise OIX domains in a HOSTS file
http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/ 127.0.0.1 a.oix.com 127.0.0.1 a.oix.net 127.0.0.1 a.webwise.com 127.0.0.1 a.webwise.net 127.0.0.1 a.webwise.org 127.0.0.1 b.oix.com 127.0.0.1 b.oix.net 127.0.0.1 b.webwise.com 127.0.0.1 b.webwise.net 127.0.0.1 b.webwise.org 127.0.0.1 bt.webwise.com 127.0.0.1 bt.webwise.net 127.0.0.1 bt.webwise.org 127.0.0.1 c.oix.com 127.0.0.1 c.oix.net 127.0.0.1 c.webwise.com 127.0.0.1 c.webwise.net 127.0.0.1 c.webwise.org 127.0.0.1 m01.oix.com 127.0.0.1 m01.oix.net 127.0.0.1 m01.webwise.com 127.0.0.1 m01.webwise.net 127.0.0.1 m01.webwise.org 127.0.0.1 m02.oix.com 127.0.0.1 m02.oix.net 127.0.0.1 m02.webwise.com 127.0.0.1 m02.webwise.net 127.0.0.1 m02.webwise.org 127.0.0.1 ns1.oix.com 127.0.0.1 ns1.oix.net 127.0.0.1 ns1.webwise.com 127.0.0.1 ns1.webwise.net 127.0.0.1 ns1.webwise.org 127.0.0.1 ns2.oix.com 127.0.0.1 ns2.oix.net 127.0.0.1 ns2.webwise.com 127.0.0.1 ns2.webwise.net 127.0.0.1 ns2.webwise.org 127.0.0.1 oix.com 127.0.0.1 oix.net 127.0.0.1 webwise.com 127.0.0.1 webwise.net 127.0.0.1 webwise.org 127.0.0.1 www.oix.com 127.0.0.1 www.oix.net 127.0.0.1 www.webwise.com 127.0.0.1 www.webwise.net 127.0.0.1 www.webwise.org |
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