Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Thanks for that....I was a little worried then :)

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

With regard to how DPI may be used by Internet Service Providers - the laws specifically state interception may only occur for reasonable network management and explicitly state not for marketing or advertising.

:)

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Unlikely, my shop site will run in https only, the https site is a mirror of the http site apart from the checkout etc does not run in http

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

If this DPI rootkit system ever gets off the ground, consider using HTTPS in your Product Browsing area to prevent unfortunate users & your Products from being scanned & profiled.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Unfortunately, so many suppliers require you to enter personal information on a non-https page, and only use the secure page for payments.
I always email the webmaster, and explain that I wanted to purchase, but will not do so, unless all personal information is secure.

Colin

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

This is one reason why this type of intrusion should never be allowed, The person running it has already shoiwn contempt for public for his own gains with rootkits. The chances of temptation making him revert for material gain again is high. Sorry to say this is one person who has wronged many people and always managed to avoid the consequencies.

It is almost like puttng bank robbers inside an unlocked bank with an open safe would they empty the safe or walk away from temptation..

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

:(

(deleted bogus info; Google does index https I was wrong)

Encryption is not necessary unless you've got crooks stealing content, and spying on traffic. The solution is not encryption, its putting the crooks behind a firewall [a brick firewall, with bars in the window, and a shower where no one dares pick up the soap].

Pete

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13,991... 13,992 ...

8 chances, just 8 chances to be in the elite 'fourteen thousand club'. Image the kudos...

:nworthy: 'My family were *ALL* in the first fourteen thousand' :nworthy:

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I also found this out only relatively recently. However, I think you were about to make a valid point. Not everything that indexes the web is going to be happy with HTTPS. As well as general purpose search engines, there are many more specialist services. Examples of these would be comparison websites that either spider a very limited portion of the web or use real-time site scraping. I’m not saying that this should prohibit the greater use of encryption, just that it’s something that needs to be born in mind.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7441693.stm [ same LINK as above ]

This leads to a short video "Keith Vaz, chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee on the misuse of data", a few nods and winks in the debate regarding concerns over data. On the whole Keith Vaz made all the usual political fluff talk about assurances and eluded to how the 'Information Commisioner' will save us from abuse!?!

So data abuse gets a 5 minute slot on the BBC with all the warm words of comfort and platitudes about safety. No mention about data abuse by ISPs and collaborations with criminal outfits such as 121Media(Phorm). Vaz did acknowledge 'mission creep' in relation to local councils abusing RIPA powers for none national security reasons.

What the politicians need to get a grip of is how companies like Phorm will abuse private personal data through mission creep. We have already seen an example discussed by licensed private investigator Steven Rambam how government bureacrats in America circumvent data laws by allowing private companies to do the dirty work of collecting information and profiling citizens. This is exactly what Phorm will do if they are given half a chance to, if they can abuse it they will.



Steven Rambam material
Parts 1,2 and 3
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...01334&q=&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...76329&q=&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...89975&q=&hl=en

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I've now included this as a major point at
http://www.inphormationdesk.org/whyitswrong.htm

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

14,001

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Interesting followup showing justice can be done:
http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20...-for-6-months/

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Having "contibuted" to the happyhackers club in my younger years this makes me more determined than ever to see this phail.
As for Vaz bleeting about Mission Creep: as an technical ex-armed forces member I know for a fact that BT and Labour/Tory/Liberal governments will, as in the 70`s/80`s, be mirrored any and all profiles once Webwise/Phorm comes into effect.
I`ve spent the last 6 weeks bookmarking and visiting terrorist websites in the hope that the top 10 words/per page are:
Weapons: Infantry/5.56mm/7.62/L96A1/Sniper/Area Denial/IED/Liquid/HME/Co-oP/
I wonder just what kind of ads BT/Phorm can serve up to an exserviceman.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Most likely get you marked on the governments list as apossible terrorist..

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

According to Kent that's not a product friendly profile.

If you're not aware of this, you should be.

(Update; looking back through your posts I see you're already aware).