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Chris 06-12-2019 07:50

Election 2019 - Week 5
 
OK folks, we’re on the final straight. This time next week we should be waking up to an almost complete result and we will probably know who has won.

In the meantime, discussion and polling continues in this shiny new thread.

Number Five is alive!


(Week 4 thread for reference: https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...9#post36019349 )

GrimUpNorth 06-12-2019 10:20

Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
So that's it. Postal vote duly completed and posted back to the council. Knowing how swamped with postal votes they are I thought I'd get it back ASAP so they can get it verified and processed. I think we're going to have a descent turn out this time, and the weather forecast for next Thursday doesn't look too bad in this part of the world.

Mr K 06-12-2019 11:02

Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
https://mobile.twitter.com/davidschn...71785219395584
Quote:

JOHNSON GUIDE TO AVOIDING SCRUTINY
Prorogue Parliament✔️
Have fake Queen’s Speech✔️
Hide Russia report✔️
Hide from Andrew Neil✔️
Avoid leaders debate✔️
Avoid climate debate✔️
Avoid Julie Etchingham interview✔️
Selfie with Philip and Holly✔️

But democracy is safe with the Tories.

Carth 06-12-2019 11:42

Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
As the weeks roll by, I'm becoming more and more convinced that the 'political' side of Twitter consists of tweets from unemployed farm workers that miss driving their muck spreaders :D

Mr K 06-12-2019 15:30

Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...y_to_clipboard
Quote:

Former Tory MP John Major urges people to vote tactically to deny Boris Johnson majority
Major is formally endorsing three former Tories who are now running as independents because they had the whip withdrawn after voting to facilitate the Benn Act, the legislation that ruled out a no-deal Brexit on 31 October. According to the news release issued in advance, he is backing David Gauke, Dominic Grieve and Anne Milton.

Commenting on them, Major will say in a video message:

"Let me make one thing absolutely clear: none of them has left the Conservative party, the Conservative party has left them. Without such talent on its benches, parliament will be the poorer, which is why – if I were resident in any one of their constituencies – they would have my vote."

But Major is also going to back calls for a second referendum. Addressing young people directly (the rally has been jointly organised with For Our Future’s Sake, a second referendum campaign focusing on young people), he will describe Brexit as “the worst foreign policy decision in my lifetime”. He will go on:

"It will affect nearly every single aspect of our lives for many decades to come. It will make our country poorer and weaker. It will hurt most those who have least. Never have the stakes been higher, especially for the young. Brexit may even break up our historic United Kingdom.'
Well said sir !

papa smurf 06-12-2019 15:45

Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36019387)



Great video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK-TDfempwY

nomadking 06-12-2019 16:35

Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Getting ridiculously tedious. When are people going to get it into their thick skulls that "deal" is basically(apart from whatever form the backstop takes) the same as "no deal", but instead it just happens at the end of next year. Any of these claimed negative impacts will still happen. So trying to claim the moral high ground by supposedly claiming to fight for a "deal" is a complete and utter load of tosh. The fervour for "deal" is simply a fraudulent backdoor attempt at Remain.

Sephiroth 06-12-2019 16:37

Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36019367)

.... but defo safer with the Tories than with Corbyn's thugs.

Mr K 06-12-2019 16:48

Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Oops....

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9236151.html

Quote:

The lead Brexit envoy in the UK's embassy in Washington has resigned, saying she can no longer "peddle half-truths" on behalf of political leaders she does not trust.
Alexandra Hall Hall sent a resignation letter earlier this week, warning that there were increasing demands being placed on civil servants not to be "fully honest" with the public.
"I have been increasingly dismayed by the way in which our political leaders have tried to deliver Brexit, with reluctance to address honestly, even with our own citizens, the challenges and trade-offs which Brexit involves; the use of misleading or disingenuous arguments about the implications of the various options before us; and some behaviour towards our institutions, which, were it happening in another country, we would almost certainly as diplomats have received instructions to register our concern," she wrote in her letter, dated December 3.
"It makes our job to promote democracy and the rule of law that much harder, if we are not seen to be upholding these core values at home."
Bozza trying to mislead people over Brexit? Who'd have thunk it? he's such an honest guy... :rolleyes:

Chris 06-12-2019 16:56

Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36019403)
Oops....

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9236151.html



Bozza trying to mislead people over Brexit? Who'd have thunk it? he's such an honest guy... :rolleyes:

On the contrary, he’s a liar, a chancer, a philanderer, and seems to be instinctively contemptuous of those whose background or experiences are much different than his.

On the other hand, the only other person who could conceivably be prime minister this time next week is a clear national security risk, propped up by ideological thugs, and he poses a serious socioeconomic risk with his desire to re-run statist experiments that were tried, and failed, a generation ago.

That’s the calculation everyone has to make this week. “Who’s a nice man?” Doesn’t come into it. “Who’s a liar?” doesn’t either, sadly. Which one of them is more or less likely to keep the country on an even keel and move our government forwards? That’s what everyone has to grapple with.

I’m voting conservative because so far as I can see it’s the only viable choice.

Sephiroth 06-12-2019 17:02

Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
I'm voting Conservative because John Redwood's my mate, Corbyn is pure poison and Brexit must be followed through.

Btw - I think Farage is a great man. (and not racist).

RichardCoulter 06-12-2019 17:28

Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Burger King have been trolling Johnson :D

https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2019/...side-of-a-bus/

It's never a good idea for those in business to get involved in politics though as, whilst it might amuse some, it could alienate other customers.

Sephiroth 06-12-2019 17:32

Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36019409)
Burger King have been trolling Johnson :D

https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2019/...side-of-a-bus/

It's never a good idea for those in business to get involved in politics though as, whilst it might amuse some, it could alienate other customers.

I love it! Still want Conservatives to win.

Mr K 06-12-2019 17:38

Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36019405)
On the contrary, he’s a liar, a chancer, a philanderer, and seems to be instinctively contemptuous of those whose background or experiences are much different than his.

On the other hand, the only other person who could conceivably be prime minister this time next week is a clear national security risk, propped up by ideological thugs, and he poses a serious socioeconomic risk with his desire to re-run statist experiments that were tried, and failed, a generation ago.

That’s the calculation everyone has to make this week. “Who’s a nice man?” Doesn’t come into it. “Who’s a liar?” doesn’t either, sadly. Which one of them is more or less likely to keep the country on an even keel and move our government forwards? That’s what everyone has to grapple with.

I’m voting conservative because so far as I can see it’s the only viable choice.

You don't seem that enthusiastic about it ! The only reason he's PM is because of Brexit, which he doesn't actually believe in at all. Took ages to decide which side he was going to be on; what was best for his political career being the deciding factor. I have a feeling even if he does win, the Tories are those that are going to be most disappointed with him. He'll be hounded out within a year when he's still failed to sort Brexit out, and the country disintegrates into a second rate Poland.

Sephiroth 06-12-2019 17:41

Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36019411)
You don't seem that enthusiastic about it ! The only reason he's PM is because of Brexit, which he doesn't actually believe in at all. Took ages to decide which side he was going to be on; what was best for his political career being the deciding factor. I have a feeling even if he does win, the Tories are those that are going to be most disappointed with him. He'll be hounded out within a year when he's still failed to sort Brexit out, and the country disintegrates into a second rate Poland.

Poland? Why Poland?


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