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1andrew1 24-09-2019 23:22

Impeachment enquiry launched into Donald Trump
 
Wow! Today is proving interesting on both sides of the Atlantic.
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An official impeachment inquiry is being launched into US President Donald Trump.
Nancy Pelosi announced the House of Representatives will examine whether Mr Trump sought Ukraine's help to smear former vice president Joe Biden, the frontrunner for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination.
At a news conference, the US House Speaker said: "The president must be held accountable. No one is above the law."
https://news.sky.com/story/impeachme...trump-11818757

Damien 24-09-2019 23:35

Re: Impeachment enquiry launched into Donald Trump
 
The transcript is being released tomorrow, don't see why they couldn't have waited for it. Also there is 'another whistleblower' that congress is set to demand testify.

It would be so stupid of Trump to have been cleared of anything that bad from the Russia thing to give people exactly what they were looking for in a new phone call.

Carth 25-09-2019 00:17

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He's rocking the boat and people don't like it, it's the way the world is nowadays.

Reminds me of someone closer to home . .

Mick 25-09-2019 07:43

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This will lead to sweet FA, it’s just another pathetic Democrat motive, but when and if it reaches the Senate it will not go anywhere. Impeachment has been on the cards for many Dems, Adam Schiff has never stopped talking about it. Democrat House Representatives Maxine Waters, Al Green have repeatedly initiated Articles of Impeachment that have never got anywhere.

Joe Biden seems to have a lot to answer for, it sure looks like he piled on pressure in 2014, in Ukraine, he’s seen on camera, saying he will old back financial aid, if the prosecutor who is trying to investigate his son, Hunter Biden isn’t fired.

Damien 25-09-2019 08:02

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Haven’t seen that footage? Kinky?

Mick 25-09-2019 08:22

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1andrew1 25-09-2019 08:27

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36011641)
Haven’t seen that footage? Kinky?

BIden actutally wanted the investigation to take place and felt the prosecutor was dragging hos feet, according to Sky News.https://news.sky.com/story/what-you-...trump-11818777

Mick 25-09-2019 08:41

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But it’s not ok to threaten them with denial of money and when it’s your own son.

1andrew1 25-09-2019 08:55

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36011652)
But it’s not ok to threaten them with denial of money and when it’s your own son.

That's different from what you claimed originally though. If the President instructed you to do so, I don't see it being an issue.
But all this is a distraction from the Trump investigation. I genuinely can't believe he would ask a foreign power for dirt on his opponents after previous accusations. Let's see what the transcripts say but I suspect there will be ambiguity.

1andrew1 25-09-2019 17:20

Re: Impeachment enquiry launched into Donald Trump
 
Ooops - per transcripts - Trump repeatedly asked Ukrainian leader to investigate joe Biden!
https://news.sky.com/story/donald-tr...shows-11819274

Hugh 25-09-2019 19:05

Re: Impeachment enquiry launched into Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36011728)
Ooops - per transcripts - Trump repeatedly asked Ukrainian leader to investigate joe Biden!
https://news.sky.com/story/donald-tr...shows-11819274

It’s not a transcript* - it’s a edited memo.

30 minutes of conversation don’t fit on five A4 pages - normal conversations are at around 130 words per minutes, and there are sub-2000 words in that memo (30 minutes x 130 wpm = 3900 words).

From the bottom of first page of the memo
Quote:

CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.· (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty "Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned to listen.and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place. A number of factors can affect the accuracy of the record, including poor telecommunications connections and variations in accent and/or interpretation.
The word "inaudible" is used to indicate portions of a conversation that the notetaker was unable to hear.
*a transcript is an exact written copy of a conversation/speech.

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The White House has, apparently accidently, just sent its damage control talking points about the Ukraine matter to ... HOUSE DEMOCRATS.

Who have now released that information to the press and social media.

And apparently the White House just now sent a follow-up email trying to recall the original email.

Interesting times...

Damien 25-09-2019 19:08

Re: Impeachment enquiry launched into Donald Trump
 
It’s not enough. The memo looks bad, he clearly tried to get him to investigate a political rival. You need undisputed evidence he was holding back government aid to get more republicans on board tho

Hugh 26-09-2019 16:30

Re: Impeachment enquiry launched into Donald Trump
 
Whistleblower’s letter released.

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploa...nt_unclass.pdf

Mick 26-09-2019 18:01

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Nothing burger as per usual.

More interested in this Biden problem that the pathetic Democrats are trying to hide again.

1andrew1 26-09-2019 20:38

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I don't think this memo is enough to impeach Trump. It's a pretty poor decision on Trump's part to seek Ukraine's help. What on earth was he thinking?


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