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nomadking 27-09-2021 11:49

Re: Various channels went off air tonight on multiple platforms
 
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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36094777)
Anyone else not getting subtitles on Channel 4, E4 etc?

Same here and E4 HD missing altogether.

RichardCoulter 27-09-2021 13:26

Re: Various channels went off air tonight on multiple platforms
 
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Originally Posted by Richardr (Post 36094658)
The S4C issues were on Freeview in Wales, where their signal replaces E4. It appears that E4 was restored everywhere, including incorrectly Wales initially, knocking out the terrestrial version of S4C. This didn't affect their other main platforms - i.e. Cable and Satellite.

Does Wales not usually have access to E4? Is S4C on 104 and Channel 4 elsewhere on the EPG?

ultimate 27-09-2021 14:29

Re: Various channels went off air tonight on multiple platforms
 
Today it has gone worse, no picture no sound on Film4 HD, E4 HD.

No subtitles on 4 HD, C4+1, 4Seven,E4+1, More 4

Openviews 27-09-2021 15:54

Re: Various channels went off air tonight on multiple platforms
 
Anyone else's picture on channel 4 really washed out colour wise with a black horizontal line in the top left hand corner. Getting the same through the aerial so likely a Channel 4 issue.

cheekyangus 27-09-2021 16:25

Re: Various channels went off air tonight on multiple platforms
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36094802)
Does Wales not usually have access to E4? Is S4C on 104 and Channel 4 elsewhere on the EPG?

On Freeview E4 is on the SDN/COM4 multiplex instead of Great! Movies Action. E4+1 is on D3&4 which means E4+1 has wider geographic DTT distribution than the main E4 as S4C replaces it on that multiplex in Wales. It's the movie channel that Welsh DTT viewers are missing out on basically.

On Virgin Media in Wales Channel 4 is on 108 and S4C on 104. E4 is in same positions as rest of UK on Cable.

ultimate 27-09-2021 17:37

Re: Various channels went off air tonight on multiple platforms
 
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Originally Posted by ultimate (Post 36094815)
Today it has gone worse, no picture no sound on Film4 HD, E4 HD.

No subtitles on 4 HD, C4+1, 4Seven,E4+1, More 4

Both channels are back to normal now.

Media Boy UK 27-09-2021 17:44

Re: Various channels went off air tonight on multiple platforms
 
Box Hits (Channel 336) is still broadcasting Kiss TV also Magic TV (Channel 340) and Kerrang! TV (Channel 342) are both still broadcasting The Box (Channel 335).

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Originally Posted by ultimate (Post 36094842)
Both channels are back to normal now.

E4 HD is still down.

cupcakes aka dd 27-09-2021 19:08

Re: Various channels went off air tonight on multiple platforms
 
Is it my imagination or has PQ of various channels reduced lately?

epsilon 27-09-2021 21:27

Re: Various channels went off air tonight on multiple platforms
 
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Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd (Post 36094861)
Is it my imagination or has PQ of various channels reduced lately?

Basically yes.

The main C4 SD channels (those on the terrestrial D3&4 multiplex): Film Four, More 4, E4 and C4 +1 all dropped from 720x576 to 544x576 resolution following the incident at Red Bee Media at White City and all of the C4 family are missing subtitles and AD. Similarly Paramount SD is having problems although Paramount HD seems fine. The BBC have escaped the worst of this by moving BBC 1 / 2 playout to Salford (those channels have dual playout facilities), other BBC channels routinely use Salford so aren't affected. The C5 family of channels are all coming from a disaster recovery playout site, so avoid many of the problems at the expense of live continuity announcements.

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36094843)
Box Hits (Channel 336) is still broadcasting Kiss TV also Magic TV (Channel 340) and Kerrang! TV (Channel 342) are both still broadcasting The Box (Channel 335).

Currently The Box is being simulcast on 4Music, Magic & Kerrang! With Kiss being simulcast on Box Hits. So, days after the incident at White City, things that were working at the start now aren't. The general expectation being things should get better rather than worse with disaster recovery procedures in place. I bet the BBC are glad they have dual playout.

BenMcr 27-09-2021 23:10

Re: Various channels went off air tonight on multiple platforms
 
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Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd (Post 36094861)
Is it my imagination or has PQ of various channels reduced lately?

Looks like Virgin are currently using the SD feeds on some of the HD channels

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...4831135#M20394

Assume that's due to the Red Bee issue and they'll be back in HD soon.

epsilon 27-09-2021 23:23

Re: Various channels went off air tonight on multiple platforms
 
This is where the situation gets even more complicated for Virgin. Because of the incident, a number of channels have been off-air at various times or operating with no sound etc. HD channels being particularly badly affected. TV360 users don't have the luxury of selecting the SD version. I never really liked the idea of the 360 limiting the number of channels available but, hey, progress. In cases like this, it seems that Virgin are using the, already downgraded, SD feeds. I've noticed reports on other sites about Virgin not carrying the same content as other platforms, this explains why. The big question here though is how long does it take Virgin to restore the HD feed when it jumps back into action? What a mess!

RichardCoulter 27-09-2021 23:42

Re: Various channels went off air tonight on multiple platforms
 
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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36094835)
On Freeview E4 is on the SDN/COM4 multiplex instead of Great! Movies Action. E4+1 is on D3&4 which means E4+1 has wider geographic DTT distribution than the main E4 as S4C replaces it on that multiplex in Wales. It's the movie channel that Welsh DTT viewers are missing out on basically.

On Virgin Media in Wales Channel 4 is on 108 and S4C on 104. E4 is in same positions as rest of UK on Cable.

Do you know where Channel 4 & S4C are on DTT? I've seen someone say that S4C is on 106 in Wales, but shouldn't it be on 104??

cheekyangus 27-09-2021 23:59

Re: Various channels went off air tonight on multiple platforms
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36094927)
Do you know where Channel 4 & S4C are on DTT? I've seen someone say that S4C is on 106 in Wales, but shouldn't it be on 104??

Channel 4 is 7 in SD and 104 in HD in Wales, whereas S4C is on 4 in SD and currently isn't in HD on Freeview (though there's speculation it will get the BBC Scotland HD and, possible BBC3 HD, slot on BBCB/PSB3 multiplex).

On very new Freeview equipment HD swaps happen, so the HD channels with exactly the same contentto their SD counterparts will swap into the single digit EPG channel numbers.

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Here's the Freeview channel page table with the numbers for every area.
https://www.freeview.co.uk/corporate...-professionals

RichardCoulter 28-09-2021 00:05

Re: Various channels went off air tonight on multiple platforms
 
Thanks.

Itshim 28-09-2021 18:11

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As far as I have noticed there is no SD for S4C at least l can't find it ! But why would l look for it really ? Seem to recall the switch was advised as happening some months ago.


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