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Mr K 19-10-2021 12:56
Re: Rising cost of living
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36098005)
Coastal erosion is nothing to do with rising sea levels.
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Sea level rise can also increase coastal erosion because waves can extend further up and along beaches and cliffs. Erosion is happening faster along coastlines made from softer sediments, notably on the East coast of England, where households and businesses in areas most at risk may find it hard to buy insurance.
https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstit...uy%20insurance.

Sephiroth 19-10-2021 13:11
Re: Rising cost of living
 
All of the above on the Greta gobshite underlines one thing: the climate change agenda is pushing up the cost of living.

We are in perfect storm territory. Without going over all the obvious ground, the Guvmin’s spouting and strutting on forcing us to ditch our boilers for dubious alternatives, 50p supermarket bags instead of 10p bags, 30p veg bags instead of recyclable free plastic bags as supermarkets try to put their hand into our wallets, and so on, £20 removed from universal credit - will cause a social bust when it starts to bite.

We are heading for shit creek nix paddle, IMO.


PS: I predict that after COP26, the Guvmin will find a foreign reason to re-open the coal-fired power stations; like France cutting off their electricity interconnect. Or the intolerable price of gas, etc.


Mr K 19-10-2021 13:48
Re: Rising cost of living
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36098013)
All of the above on the Greta gobshite underlines one thing: the climate change agenda is pushing up the cost of living.

We are in perfect storm territory. Without going over all the obvious ground, the Guvmin’s spouting and strutting on forcing us to ditch our boilers for dubious alternatives, 50p supermarket bags instead of 10p bags, 30p veg bags instead of recyclable free plastic bags as supermarkets try to put their hand into our wallets, and so on, £20 removed from universal credit - will cause a social bust when it starts to bite.

We are heading for shit creek nix paddle, IMO.


PS: I predict that after COP26, the Guvmin will find a foreign reason to re-open the coal-fired power stations; like France cutting off their electricity interconnect. Or the intolerable price of gas, etc.

If we don't make the changes we'll have a lot more than the cost of living to worry about. Living itself, for a start. We've pushed this back and ignored it again and again, the longer we leave the more extreme the measures needed.

We maybe already past the tipping point of climate disaster thanks to our short sightedness/greed/stuff the next generation attitude. Seems foolish not to try even if we are late to wake up to it.

Mad Max 19-10-2021 13:56
Re: Rising cost of living
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36098020)
If we don't make the changes we'll have a lot more than the cost of living to worry about. Living itself, for a start. We've pushed this back and ignored it again and again, the longer we leave the more extreme the measures needed.

We maybe already past the tipping point of climate disaster thanks to our short sightedness/greed/stuff the next generation attitude. Seems foolish not to try even if we are late to wake up to it.
Do you really believe that the UK can change the world re climate change? China and India continue to burn fossil fuels and are opening up new coal mines, there's no point in some countries trying to change the way we live if the biggest ones don't get on board, and there's no sign of that happening anytime soon.

Carth 19-10-2021 13:57
Re: Rising cost of living
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36098013)
All of the above on the Greta gobshite underlines one thing: the climate change agenda is pushing up the cost of living.

We are in perfect storm territory. Without going over all the obvious ground, the Guvmin’s spouting and strutting on forcing us to ditch our boilers for dubious alternatives, 50p supermarket bags instead of 10p bags, 30p veg bags instead of recyclable free plastic bags as supermarkets try to put their hand into our wallets, and so on, £20 removed from universal credit - will cause a social bust when it starts to bite.

We are heading for shit creek nix paddle, IMO.


PS: I predict that after COP26, the Guvmin will find a foreign reason to re-open the coal-fired power stations; like France cutting off their electricity interconnect. Or the intolerable price of gas, etc.

Add to that the push for 'cleaner' fuel . . bio-whatever it is. Huge swathes of land being 'cleared' to grow the crops it's made from . . which also has it's own flaws in the production process *allegedly*

Mr K 19-10-2021 14:10
Re: Rising cost of living
 
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36098022)
Do you really believe that the UK can change the world re climate change? China and India continue to burn fossil fuels and are opening up new coal mines, there's no point in some countries trying to change the way we live if the biggest ones don't get on board, and there's no sign of that happening anytime soon.
Yes of course it has to be all countries. Hence the little meeting in Glasgow this month. Even China has a net zero target, although its not good enough atm. Economic catastrophe, which will follow climate catastrophe, is in no ones interest, even the selfish. Hopefully the penny has dropped, but we'll have to see.

If we still see ourselves as a global leader, why not lead the way?

Sephiroth 19-10-2021 14:27
Re: Rising cost of living
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36098020)
If we don't make the changes we'll have a lot more than the cost of living to worry about. Living itself, for a start. We've pushed this back and ignored it again and again, the longer we leave the more extreme the measures needed.

We maybe already past the tipping point of climate disaster thanks to our short sightedness/greed/stuff the next generation attitude. Seems foolish not to try even if we are late to wake up to it.
As I said - perfect storm territory. Climate change meets cost of living crisis meets social cohesion crisis (upcoming).

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36098027)
Yes of course it has to be all countries. Hence the little meeting in Glasgow this month. Even China has a net zero target, although its not good enough atm. Economic catastrophe, which will follow climate catastrophe, is in no ones interest, even the selfish. Hopefully the penny has dropped, but we'll have to see.

If we still see ourselves as a global leader, why not lead the way?
Because India and China must lead the way. If we make sacrifices and they don't (they won't) we're pissing on ourselves not just the wind.

Mr K 19-10-2021 14:41
Re: Rising cost of living
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36098031)
As I said - perfect storm territory. Climate change meets cost of living crisis meets social cohesion crisis (upcoming).

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Because India and China must lead the way. If we make sacrifices and they don't (they won't) we're pissing on ourselves not just the wind.
And if we all wait for each other to do something? How about we all do it together?

Sephiroth 19-10-2021 14:51
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36098034)
And if we all wait for each other to do something? How about we all do it together?
... and how is that to be achieved? CVOP26 won't bend those big countries. Are you living in cloud cuckoo land?

Mr K 19-10-2021 15:14
Re: Rising cost of living
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36098036)
... and how is that to be achieved? CVOP26 won't bend those big countries. Are you living in cloud cuckoo land?
Just living in hope we get some heads knocked together and achieve something. The consequences of not doing do are disasterous for us all, regardless of country.

Carth 19-10-2021 15:22
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Hands up if you remember Sting and his outcry about the Amazon rain forests . . . .




to save people looking, it was 1989, and they're still being chopped down.

Sephiroth 19-10-2021 15:47
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36098039)
Just living in hope we get some heads knocked together and achieve something. The consequences of not doing do are disasterous for us all, regardless of country.
All very virtuous. But, barring a miracle, what you're looking for isn't going to happen.

Who's going to bang China's & India's heads together against whom else?

joglynne 19-10-2021 15:54
Re: Rising cost of living
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36098040)
Hands up if you remember Sting and his outcry about the Amazon rain forests . . . .

to save people looking, it was 1989, and they're still being chopped down.
:wavey: I still believe he was genuine in his actions but .......

Nothing will change as long as those who benefit still get to tuck the profits in their pockets, and as long as a profit is theirs to grab that's the only figure they are interested in.

People may spout their support for any action but as long as there is someone whose lifestyle they covert then they won't feel that they bear any responsibility. The "Jones's" of this world have a lot to answer for.

papa smurf 19-10-2021 15:54
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36098039)
Just living in hope we get some heads knocked together and achieve something. The consequences of not doing do are disasterous for us all, regardless of country.
You could always sit on a motorway and demand change.

Carth 19-10-2021 17:22
Re: Rising cost of living
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36098046)
You could always sit on a motorway and demand change.
I thought people sat in shop doorways and did that ;)


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