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Sephiroth 06-07-2021 09:30
The Smart Meter Con
 
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I'm becoming increasingly furious at the Smart Meter con.

Apart from the hyped & weasel worded consumer savings, the TV adverts don't tell you that Smart Meters place you at the off-switch mercy of the private sector suppliers and worse still allows them to charge variable prices according to time of day and their dividend expectations.

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.word...art-meter-con/

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However, the report claimed most of the eventual savings would be made by energy firms, rather than consumers.

"The roll-out is consequently at serious risk of becoming yet another large scale public infrastructure project delivered well over time and budget, and which fails to provide energy customers with a meaningful return on their investment," said Mr Shapps.


Ken W 06-07-2021 09:32
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36085353)
I'm becoming increasingly furious at the Smart Meter con.

Apart from the hyped & weasel worded consumer savings, the TV adverts don't tell you that Smart Meters place you at the off-switch mercy of the private sector suppliers and worse still allows them to charge variable prices according to time of day and their dividend expectations.

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.word...art-meter-con/
Too true

mrmistoffelees 06-07-2021 09:34
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We keep getting badgered to have them installed by whoever it is, funnily enough though, they can't do installations on a weekend?

jfman 06-07-2021 09:36
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Capitalists squeezing the consumer, well I never!

Sephiroth 06-07-2021 09:53
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Capitalists squeezing the consumer, well I never!
I created this thread to provide a platform for you!

Carth 06-07-2021 09:59
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Hello, we'd like to fit a smart meter for your electricity supply.

I see, would that be so you can save money by making your meter readers redundant, and then calculate my bills using the data sent from a plastic box - that may decide to malfunction and send wrong data?

No, it's so you know that when you boil the kettle you will use more electricity.

Great, sign me up.

Jaymoss 06-07-2021 10:08
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36085353)
I'm becoming increasingly furious at the Smart Meter con.

Apart from the hyped & weasel worded consumer savings, the TV adverts don't tell you that Smart Meters place you at the off-switch mercy of the private sector suppliers and worse still allows them to charge variable prices according to time of day and their dividend expectations.

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.word...art-meter-con/
What I have said all along

Someone eventually will come along and say it is the government that are forcing them to do it and some are getting massive fines for not reaching targets. Then I will say the same as I said last time, it is all smoke and mirrors

Taf 06-07-2021 12:08
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Whenever this subject comes up, I have to tell people this insidious fact:

We are charged for electricity by the kilowatt-hour (kwh).

But a thing called Power Factor (PF) means that some devices cause a phase shift along the power lines, so the power companies have to add extra power to compensate.

That costs the power companies money.

So they all want to charge us another way, kilovolt-amperes (kVa) which gives the true value of power we use.

Smart meters can read kVa, so at some time in the future our bills will suddenly rise when they switch to that measurement method.

Just as electric heating, electric car charging, et al, become the norm.....

heero_yuy 06-07-2021 13:41
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If they do start charging for KVA then I'll need to get PF correction capacitors for my two freezers and the fridge. Their PF is only around 0.6 according to my own energy monitor.

Taf 06-07-2021 17:29
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If they do start charging for KVA then I'll need to get PF correction capacitors for my two freezers and the fridge. Their PF is only around 0.6 according to my own energy monitor.
I think there will be a big push for industry to fit PF capacitors sometime soon. They are already mandatory for PC power supplies.

LED lighting is another thing that is going to cause headaches, as many have poor PF and they don't have to mention that on their packaging.

Dude111 08-07-2021 00:29
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[COLOR="Blue"]I'm becoming increasingly furious at the Smart Meter con.
Ya and you should be furious Mate!!!

This give them TOTAL CONTROL and your bills will be higher!!!

And it can affect your health being surrounded by all that RF and not being able to get away from it!!!!

THESE METERS ARE SPYING GARBAGE!!!!!!!! -- If you can,opt out!!

Stephen 08-07-2021 01:31
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Spying, not really but helping get meter readings without a guy coming to read them.

Paul 08-07-2021 03:22
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Its amazing how easy it is to read your own meter, I do it every month :D

Dude111 08-07-2021 03:30
Yes its easy,you dont need a smart meter thats not good for us!!

Mr K 08-07-2021 06:50
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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36085613)
Spying, not really but helping get meter readings without a guy coming to read them.
I don't think they exist anylonger, mine haven't been read for years.


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