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jfman 29-12-2019 01:36

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36021439)
Exactly what I do most of the time, also means you can skip half-time.

With a recorder (most people have one) who needs streaming?

Which brings me back to the glorious question what goes streaming bring to the table that a PVR doesn't?

ozsat 29-12-2019 08:06

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2020)
 
The biggest difference for me between streaming catchup and using a DVR - is the DVR always allows skipping over the ads.
Also, streaming is still not 100% coverage of recent programmes.

I see those watching live sport on streaming are often complaining that they are receiving notifications or social media updates of score updates - before their live stream has shown it!

OLD BOY 29-12-2019 11:39

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36021426)
New episodes of Law & Order:SVU are already on Sky Witness, Chicago Med is moving there too. I have no idea about the rest.

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Though in the most I agree, and I usually don't watch linear live, it sometimes makes little difference. Aside from watching any time you feel like, the other main reason for watching on-demand shows is no advertising breaks.

The problem there is many on-demand services still have adverts and they are unusually unskippable, so at least linear channels you can record them and high speed fast-forward them. On-demand on VM often has ads and there is only one speed to the fast-forward, and sometimes the playback crashes and you have to start again.

So if the on-demand option available has ads, there's one less advantage so live watching. So impatient people will just watch live.

If it were me I'd record the linear broacast, and start watching it once it's recorded enough to skip ads without catching up. I sometimes even do it with live sport, if it's on an ad-channel.

I find it frustrating to watch the ITV Hub, All4 and My5 due to the ads, and that is why the only streaming services we watch are Netflix, Amazon Prime, BBC i-Player, Now TV and Apple+.

All the other programmes we watch are recorded. So therefore, we do not encounter the kind of problems you find with ad-supported streaming.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36021451)
Which brings me back to the glorious question what goes streaming bring to the table that a PVR doesn't?

If you watch programmes from a non-ad supported streaming service, there are two advantages over the PVR. Firstly, you have a huge wealth of programmes to choose from, whereas your PVR has limited disk space. Secondly, although you can fast forward through the advertisements with programmes recorded from the commercial channels, you don't even have to do that with SVOD or the i-Player. Just press play and no further interventions are necessary.

The only issue I have with VOD is the fact that programmes can be withdrawn before you have the chance to watch them. This is a particular problem with Now TV.

Raider999 29-12-2019 14:09

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36021465)
I find it frustrating to watch the ITV Hub, All4 and My5 due to the ads, and that is why the only streaming services we watch are Netflix, Amazon Prime, BBC i-Player, Now TV and Apple+.

All the other programmes we watch are recorded. So therefore, we do not encounter the kind of problems you find with ad-supported streaming.

---------- Post added at 11:39 ---------- Previous post was at 11:32 ----------



If you watch programmes from a non-ad supported streaming service, there are two advantages over the PVR. Firstly, you have a huge wealth of programmes to choose from, whereas your PVR has limited disk space. Secondly, although you can fast forward through the advertisements with programmes recorded from the commercial channels, you don't even have to do that with SVOD or the i-Player. Just press play and no further interventions are necessary.

The only issue I have with VOD is the fact that programmes can be withdrawn before you have the chance to watch them. This is a particular problem with Now TV.

That is a major issue for me too.

Several times I have missed the first 1 or 2 episodes of a series, been asked by friends if I have watched it, downloaded them from IPlayer only to find they have disappeared before I have time to watch them.

On other occasions they have gone from IPlayer before I find out about them.

Really not sure why this happens as when I record them from EPG they stay for ever - who decided on the arbitrary time limit?

OLD BOY 29-12-2019 16:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36021469)
That is a major issue for me too.

Several times I have missed the first 1 or 2 episodes of a series, been asked by friends if I have watched it, downloaded them from IPlayer only to find they have disappeared before I have time to watch them.

On other occasions they have gone from IPlayer before I find out about them.

Really not sure why this happens as when I record them from EPG they stay for ever - who decided on the arbitrary time limit?

The i-Player was really only a catch up service, but latterly they have successfully received permission to keep programmes on there for a year, despite objections from Sky and others.

I am sure this will sort itself out. I believe the plan is for material to stay on the player for the first 12 months and then migrate over to Britbox.

SonicMaster 30-12-2019 12:23

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2020)
 
First week of Paramount Network in the new format:

The A-Team
Knight Rider
Airwolf
Street Hawk
Spartacus: Blood and Sand
Arrow
Suits
Police Interceptors
Traffic Cops
Trucking Hell
Bouncers
Car Crash TV
High Alert
Criminals: Caught on Camera
Can't Pay? We'll Take it Away!
Winter Road Rescue
World's Deadliest Weather
World's Toughest Prisons

It's very clearly just 5Spike under a new name.

I don't have anything against the content, as 5Spike has been very successful at appealing to the old Bravo demographic, and Spike is a good brand for that, but there's no way that these shows should be associated with the Paramount brand in the UK.

cheekyangus 30-12-2019 13:27

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36021542)
First week of Paramount Network in the new format:

The A-Team
Knight Rider
Airwolf
Street Hawk
Spartacus: Blood and Sand
Arrow
Suits
Police Interceptors
Traffic Cops
Trucking Hell
Bouncers
Car Crash TV
High Alert
Criminals: Caught on Camera
Can't Pay? We'll Take it Away!
Winter Road Rescue
World's Deadliest Weather
World's Toughest Prisons

It's very clearly just 5Spike under a new name.

I don't have anything against the content, as 5Spike has been very successful at appealing to the old Bravo demographic, and Spike is a good brand for that, but there's no way that these shows should be associated with the Paramount brand in the UK.

The only shows that are transferring from Paramount Network UK on that list are Suits and Arrow.

ScottishSteve 30-12-2019 14:08

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2020)
 
The channel 'Box Upfront' on channel 330 looks like it won't be returning after the 'Boxmas' Takeover
From 6am on Wed 8th January it says
This channel is no longer available

Media Boy UK 30-12-2019 15:47

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36021559)
The channel 'Box Upfront' on channel 330 looks like it won't be returning after the 'Boxmas' Takeover
From 6am on Wed 8th January it says
This channel is no longer available

As reported by me on December 28th (But I did forgot the channel name).
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...8&postcount=14

trueblood 30-12-2019 16:28

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Looking at next year's radio times for the 7th of Jan and some Ch 5 numbers are changing.
Ch 5 HD 105
Ch 5 SD 154
Paramount HD 150
Paramount SD 187
Now this is the radio times so don't know how accurate this may be. ;)

Media Boy UK 30-12-2019 16:31

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trueblood (Post 36021572)
Looking at next year's radio times for the 7th of Jan and some Ch 5 numbers are changing.
Ch 5 HD 105
Ch 5 SD 154
Paramount HD 150
Paramount SD 187
Now this is the radio times so don't know how accurate this may be. ;)

What about 5Star and 5USA also Channel 5 +1?

Do you also see anything about Paramount +1?

Also Thanks for information.

So that

Channel 5 HD - 105
- 132
- 133
- 134
Parmount HD - 150
- 151
- 152
- 153
Channel 5 SD - 154
- 155
- 181
- 182
- 183
- 184
- 185
- 186
Paramount SD - 187
- 188

ozsat 30-12-2019 16:32

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2020)
 
In all EPGs - Paramount is moving up to replace 5Spike.

Media Boy UK 30-12-2019 16:39

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36021574)
In all EPGs - Paramount is moving up to replace 5Spike.

But Channel 150 is being use for Channel 5 HD on Virgin Media right now.

Radio Times is reporting that 5Spike Channel number will be use for Channel 5 SD Channel on Virgin Media.

ozsat 30-12-2019 17:03

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Seems different places were told different things

ScottishSteve 30-12-2019 17:52

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36021577)
But Channel 150 is being use for Channel 5 HD on Virgin Media right now.

Radio Times is reporting that 5Spike Channel number will be use for Channel 5 SD Channel on Virgin Media.

Maybe the Channel 5 SD and Paramount SD services will be removed completely just like BBC 1/2 & STV where applicable as it is a single feed service with no regional variants for advertising.


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