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jfman 06-11-2019 11:14

Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
https://www.ft.com/content/240afcac-...9-e49b2a136b8d

denphone 06-11-2019 11:24

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36016253)

Thats a very interesting deal and not one that BT will like.

pip08456 06-11-2019 11:32

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36016253)

Non-paywall report.
https://www.cityam.com/virgin-media-...afone-network/

1701-e 06-11-2019 13:18

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Or the VM press release.... https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...ew-mobile-deal


5G seems to be the main boost.

SnoopZ 06-11-2019 13:37

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Well that rules out me ever getting Virgin Mobile as we have unusable signal levels in my village.

Paul 06-11-2019 14:13

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
I must be behind the times, I thought Virgin used the EE network, not BT ?

jfman 06-11-2019 14:21

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36016265)
I must be behind the times, I thought Virgin used the EE network, not BT ?

BT own EE. :)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36016255)

Apologies for the paywall link. When I clicked through from google I got the FT article.

Brunel 06-11-2019 15:49

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
No paywall BBC NEWS.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50313824

Taf 06-11-2019 15:58

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
I ponder if this is the reason why some VM mobile users are being moved to new tariffs, some of which are quite punitive for low users?

cheekyangus 06-11-2019 16:08

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36016272)
I ponder if this is the reason why some VM mobile users are being moved to new tariffs, some of which are quite punitive for low users?

I wouldn't be surprised. They are basically pulling out of the PAYG market, it's not on their website anymore, and are putting customers who have other VM services on one tariff, and those that don't have other VM services on the most astonishingly awful PAYG tariff which deserves to give them a PR nightmare (e.g. BBC Watchdog, Rip-off Britain, etc) which is clearly designed to get rid of them.

jb66 06-11-2019 18:35

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
I wish there was a way to move early

Mr K 06-11-2019 18:39

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Currently with EE payg ( same network as VM). Was considering moving to the cheapest VM contract, but checked Vodaphones coverage in a few of my favourite places and its just not as good. Will stay put.

lemarsh 06-11-2019 18:44

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Quote:

This agreement with Vodafone will bring a host of fantastic benefits and experiences to our customers

Apart from 5G (not that bothered, not planning on changing phone for a while) - what could be the added benefits?

JPAC 06-11-2019 19:12

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Benefit for VM is that BT is a direct competitor. Vodafone network has improved a lot recently. Three is still the best VFM IMO.

jb66 06-11-2019 20:06

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lemarsh (Post 36016287)
Apart from 5G (not that bothered, not planning on changing phone for a while) - what could be the added benefits?

wifi calling?

SnoopZ 06-11-2019 20:33

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 36016301)
wifi calling?

Doesn't Virgin have WiFi calling as EE do?

nodrogd 06-11-2019 20:49

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36016315)
Doesn't Virgin have WiFi calling as EE do?

No. They had the facility to make use of your inclusive landline calls via WiFi (it was called Smartcall), but they dropped it a couple of years ago.

jb66 06-11-2019 20:59

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36016315)
Doesn't Virgin have WiFi calling as EE do?

I wish

Maggy 06-11-2019 22:18

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Vodafone. Reasonable coverage but crap website.

JMcB 07-11-2019 00:40

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Do we have a way of comparing the 2 network services

Mr K 07-11-2019 10:00

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
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Originally Posted by JMcB (Post 36016330)
Do we have a way of comparing the 2 network services

You can check coverage here:-
https://store.virginmedia.com/virgin...e-checker.html
https://maps.vodafone.co.uk/coverage...ration=partner

EE (i.e. Virgin) wins over Vodafone for me.

SnoopZ 07-11-2019 11:11

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36016345)
You can check coverage here:-
https://store.virginmedia.com/virgin...e-checker.html
https://maps.vodafone.co.uk/coverage...ration=partner

EE (i.e. Virgin) wins over Vodafone for me.

And me too, i only get 2 bars for outdoors only with Vodaphone, so it's bollocks.

cheekyangus 07-11-2019 11:29

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36016345)
You can check coverage here:-
https://store.virginmedia.com/virgin...e-checker.html
https://maps.vodafone.co.uk/coverage...ration=partner

EE (i.e. Virgin) wins over Vodafone for me.

The VM one isn't working for some reason, but the Vodafone one says full (4 bars) for 2, 3 and 4G. Which surprised me.

SnoopZ 07-11-2019 11:56

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Working for me i get full coverage with EE.

japitts 11-11-2019 08:13

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Almost certainly strategic, it removes one big obstacle to Liberty & Vodafone getting closer.

It's surprising how many people probably think that Virgin Mobile is an actual network operator, their marketing is rather good at hiding the virtual bit. Then being somewhere between surprised and upset when they get told that feature xyz isn't available.

cheekyangus 11-11-2019 09:46

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
I think Virgin Mobile was the first Virtual network operator in the World, they certainly were in the UK, and it's been so long since they launched most people just assume it's a proper one.

japitts 11-11-2019 15:17

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36016790)
I think Virgin Mobile was the first Virtual network operator in the World, they certainly were in the UK, and it's been so long since they launched most people just assume it's a proper one.

Indeed, and with Virgin being (rightly) reluctant to correct such things.. it just goes to show that the worst thing you can do in telecoms is to assume!!

Derekb108 13-11-2019 20:47

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
I've got a feeling that the Vodafone deal is only the beginning, I mean why haven't we progressed to the new "Horizon" pvr yet and Christmas is coming up opon quick....

Stephen 13-11-2019 21:30

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
I guess it could pay the way for Vodafone to get tv services using VM.

Vodafone were supposed to launch a tv services 3 years ago. But it was cancelled right before launch. They had spent a lot on it and had cloud storage facilities for recordings. VM could perhaps use that.

RichardCoulter 14-11-2019 11:08

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36017035)
I guess it could pay the way for Vodafone to get tv services using VM.

Vodafone were supposed to launch a tv services 3 years ago. But it was cancelled right before launch. They had spent a lot on it and had cloud storage facilities for recordings. VM could perhaps use that.

Which would nicely tie in with the V6 starting to record to the cloud as has been speculated for some time. Inside the V6 it is essentially two boxes, one designed for recording to the cloud and the other bit currently used for recording.

cheekyangus 14-11-2019 11:22

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Given the Horizon system already has cloud facilities, from what I read if I'm recalling it correctly, in the countries Liberty Global uses it in currently, there is no need for Vodafone's cloud system.

spiderplant 14-11-2019 11:44

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Why on earth would VM adopt a failed TV system, when they already have two tried & tested ones?

Stephen 14-11-2019 11:59

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
I can say that the Voda cloud recording and playback did work well and it was a decent service.

Derekb108 15-11-2019 04:04

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36017069)
Given the Horizon system already has cloud facilities, from what I read if I'm recalling it correctly, in the countries Liberty Global uses it in currently, there is no need for Vodafone's cloud system.

There is if Liberty global is selling up in the uk area like what they done in Germany.....

cheekyangus 15-11-2019 10:21

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
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Originally Posted by Derekb108 (Post 36017176)
There is if Liberty global is selling up in the uk area like what they done in Germany.....

Various press articles have suggested Virgin Media is the cable asset Liberty Global value most out of their remaining ones, which may make it the last one they sell. I can't remember how many they have left, but it's not just VM.

BenMcr 15-11-2019 13:14

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36017215)
I can't remember how many they have left, but it's not just VM.

Their cable areas are here

https://www.libertyglobal.com/operations/companies/

cheekyangus 15-11-2019 13:40

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36017246)

Thanks BenMcr. :)

Interesting, the Dutch operation is a 50/50 joint venture with Vodafone.

wildfruit 19-11-2019 20:02

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
This is a shame for me as me and the wife are on EE and the eldest boy has a virgin sim as EE is the only network with reliable coverage where we live. Had Vodafone before and frequently loses signal. Will render that unlimited sim on the ultimate oomph almost useless ( if I keep the package that long)

jb66 19-11-2019 20:36

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wildfruit (Post 36017698)
This is a shame for me as me and the wife are on EE and the eldest boy has a virgin sim as EE is the only network with reliable coverage where we live. Had Vodafone before and frequently loses signal. Will render that unlimited sim on the ultimate oomph almost useless ( if I keep the package that long)

Vodafone might allow virgin to get wifi calling for home use

Derekb108 19-11-2019 20:43

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 36017705)
Vodafone might allow virgin to get wifi calling for home use


I hope so!

japitts 20-11-2019 18:42

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wildfruit (Post 36017698)
This is a shame for me as me and the wife are on EE and the eldest boy has a virgin sim as EE is the only network with reliable coverage where we live. Had Vodafone before and frequently loses signal. Will render that unlimited sim on the ultimate oomph almost useless ( if I keep the package that long)

Keep the Ultimate Oomph SIM for the bundle discount, and put it in a drawer.

I don't know whether putting all your phones onto the same EE account and having access to data sharing would work?

wildfruit 20-11-2019 19:39

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
It’s not really a WiFi calling problem for me personally as I very rarely call or receive a call. I probably get a call once a week on average. It’s just more a matter of if I’m walking to the shops and want to stream some music or watch a film on the bus it’s painful if it works at all on Vodafone. First world problem I know. EE is rubbish where I work and Vodafone was strong there. Swings and roundabouts.

japitts 22-11-2019 14:01

Re: Virgin moving to Vodafone in 2021
 
The perfect network just doesn't exist of course... But I'd always take MNO service given a free choice/


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