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RichardCoulter 19-02-2019 13:39

Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?
 
I've just been reading that, when 5G is introduced, that the speed and capacity will be much better than the fixed line broadband and mobile internet that we have now.

Will this innovation lead to a lot of people dumping fixed line broadband along with the very idea of 'home' internet and 'mobile' internet and just using the one provider wherever in the UK they find themselves?

Could this eventually lead to the death of fixed line broadband?

admars 19-02-2019 14:54

Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?
 
how would I connect to it from home? Would I need a new router with a SIM in it? Or is the assumption that "everyone" uses their phone? That then goes against smart TVs, unless people will stream from phone straight to TV or whatever young cool kids do these days :)

Mr_love_monkey 19-02-2019 17:24

Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?
 
What about people that have little or no mobile coverage? - or people in remote areas?

Paul 19-02-2019 18:38

Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?
 
Will it be as reliable as a fixed connection I wonder.

Will it even cope with every house trying to use it at the same time .....

JPAC 19-02-2019 19:12

Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?
 
Technology marches on.
https://www.gsmarena.com/qualcomms_n...news-35586.php

Just hope you're in the right place with lots of money. :D

RichardCoulter 20-02-2019 15:21

Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 35983743)
What about people that have little or no mobile coverage? - or people in remote areas?

I suspect that they will have to rely on fixed line internet (probably over the telephone wires).

Sparsely populated areas are unlikely to be served by Virgin Media or mobile phone companies due to the costs involved in return for little profitability.

Chris 20-02-2019 21:45

Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 35983743)
What about people that have little or no mobile coverage? - or people in remote areas?

People in remote areas tend not to get fast wired broadband either. I get around 4Mbit down and 0.4Mbit up, on an exceptionally good copper EO line that’s more than 4.5 miles long. Others in my area aren’t so lucky.

At the same time I can access a fairly mediocre 4g signal via EE that usually gives me about double that speed and I’d use it in a flash were it not for the fact that it’s pigging expensive. We’re a family of five, with a combined monthly download in excess of 50GB per month. That’s fine with unlimited BT broadband but I shudder to think what it would be on a mobile contract.

Hugh 20-02-2019 21:50

Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?
 
Yup - I was in Penrhos, Monmouthshire a couple of weekends ago, and we had 1 Mb/s down and about 250Kb/s up.

JPAC 20-02-2019 22:29

Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?
 
First Samsung 5G phone more than $2,000. Not cheap.

Mythica 20-02-2019 22:49

Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JPAC (Post 35983965)
First Samsung 5G phone more than $2,000. Not cheap.

There isn't any prices for the 5G phones yet?

JPAC 20-02-2019 23:11

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Quote from the link; A 4G version of the Galaxy Fold is set to go on sale on April 26 and will start at $1,980 (£1,515). A more expensive 5G edition was also promised. Maybe that's the 5G fold variant, the S10 5G doesn't have a price yet.

richard s 24-02-2019 20:37

Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 35983969)
There isn't any prices for the 5G phones yet?


I think that is the new bendy double phone thingy.:erm:

---------- Post added at 19:37 ---------- Previous post was at 19:36 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPAC (Post 35983965)
First Samsung 5G phone more than $2,000. Not cheap.


I think that is the new bendy double phone thingy.:erm:

Maggy 25-02-2019 15:28

Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?
 
Let’s stick to the original topic please

Stuart 25-02-2019 19:08

Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35983748)
Will it be as reliable as a fixed connection I wonder.

Will it even cope with every house trying to use it at the same time .....

Will it cope if someone happens to throw up a large building between you and your local Mobile base station?

Actually, I don't think Fixed line broadband is going away anytime soon. Why? Backhaul. While it is feasible to have mobile base stations connect to each other via Microwave links, they also need some fibre backhaul network to connect them to both the mobile phone network and, ultimately, the internet. The fibre backhaul also provides a higher capacity than the Microwave link.

Running a dedicated fibre to each base station would be relatively expensive, so the mobile providers tend to lease connections to the local fixed-line broadband networks, whether they are BT, Virgin or whoever. These networks are largely paid for by the users of fixed-line broadband.

Richard mentioned it would enable you to have one provider for all your internet needs, at home and out and about, but I would question the value of this. I have Virgin media at home, and my current Mobile network is 3. I am happy with both, and I don't see the advantage of having both provided by one company. Even if I did, it's perfectly feasible to have that now.

RichardCoulter 28-02-2019 11:50

Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35984422)
Will it cope if someone happens to throw up a large building between you and your local Mobile base station?

Actually, I don't think Fixed line broadband is going away anytime soon. Why? Backhaul. While it is feasible to have mobile base stations connect to each other via Microwave links, they also need some fibre backhaul network to connect them to both the mobile phone network and, ultimately, the internet. The fibre backhaul also provides a higher capacity than the Microwave link.

Running a dedicated fibre to each base station would be relatively expensive, so the mobile providers tend to lease connections to the local fixed-line broadband networks, whether they are BT, Virgin or whoever. These networks are largely paid for by the users of fixed-line broadband.

Richard mentioned it would enable you to have one provider for all your internet needs, at home and out and about, but I would question the value of this. I have Virgin media at home, and my current Mobile network is 3. I am happy with both, and I don't see the advantage of having both provided by one company. Even if I did, it's perfectly feasible to have that now.

I was thinking that, as a superior service, people would use 5G whilst at home and away from home. I suppose whether it was unlimited or not would affect the decision to do this.


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