Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Had a reply back from the APWG.
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Now would be the time to respond pointing out the phorm-owned pages masquerading as BT requiring that you fill in large quantities of personal details :P
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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I am not a lawyer, but I am a software engineer :). Over the years, I have worked for many companies that have pages like this on their sites. I have even worked on jobs where I have had to provide these services from one company to another and rebrand them to make them appear as though they are part of another system. For example, company A wants to use company Bs contact us page but brand it as being from company A. This is what I believe it happening here. BT is using their relationship with Phorm to have them host and rebrand a conatct us type page to gather questions from customers. Back in the day, forms like this would simply email the data to the approriate address for the company to read and answer. However, this type of form proved open to abuse, allowing people to use it as an open email relay. So these days the data is usually captured and stored somewhere before being sent to the company. Given that the data is capture on a site hosted on a US server I would assume that the captured data would be stored somewhere on that server. This would be bad. I assume that the data is being sent via email unencrypted as well. If this is the case then it is also bad. Maybe I just see the worst in everything, but my experience tells me that all that data you enter on that form is recorded in a database over in the US and then passed back to BT over email. If that is the case then it scares the doo doo out of me. |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
"Phorm and Webwise - the EC says system that will watch you online may be illegal under European Law"
http://www.mobileshop.com/blog/editorial-opinions/phorm-and-webwise-the-ec-says-system-that-will-watch-you-online-may-be-illegal-under-european-law/ NOTE: Emma Sanderson did not appreciate having Wipe-O-Matic picture beating her own uglymug official photo on Google Images, so she had it removed. Well done BT! Just goes to show when you really don't want some filthy junk you can ring up and get it taken down... pity we can't say the same about getting BT spying and WebLies removed with a couple of complaints. ;) |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
oh dear , what a shame, share price is sliding again :P
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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But that doesn't lessen my sense of moral outrage. (I'm good at moral outrage!) BT and Phorm are in bed together. They got married about two years ago in secret, but only announced the engagement recently (when photographs of them in a secret clinch in both 2006 and 2007 were published). The prenuptial agreement seems to have been a tough one, otherwise they might have announced a separation when the faeces hit the ventilation system a few months ago. So given that they have a common financial interest in the success of Webwise (one that runs directly counter to MY interests as a customer and citizen) I'm ready for any revelation about their joint activities. But I'm trying not to let my moral sensibilities get coarsened by the low ethical standards of my ISP's senior management. |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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"I HEREBY GIVE NOTICE to BT that until further written notice from me you must not begin processing for the purposes of direct marketing personal data in respect of which I am the data subject. The Terms and Conditions to which I agreed make no mention of intercepting data by routeing it through BTWebwise or Phorm servers or any other means of capturing, profiling, mirroring, touching, forwarding or looking at such data for any such purpose or for inspection or analysis or interpretation by third party commercial enterprises. I also draw your attention to the Common Law right to privacy where "a duty of confidence arises when confidential information comes to the knowledge of a person in circumstances where he has notice, or is held to have agreed, that the information is confidential, with the effect that it would be just in all the circumstances that he should be precluded from disclosing the information to others." I HEREBY GIVE FURTHER NOTICE that any of my personal data that may be captured, profiled, mirrored, touched, forwarded or looked at is confidential and that BT has a duty in law to respect that confidentiality and not allow any of that data to be stored, mirrored, profiled or analysed for the benefit of a third party, notwithstanding any confidential data that BT holds that relates specifically to the normal operation of my Broadband service."..... does that not override anything in the Privacy Policy or the T & Cs? g |
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http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle4023310.ece ---------- Post added at 10:33 ---------- Previous post was at 10:27 ---------- Quote:
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(To be fair, someone in the legal team has just written to say he'll arrange a refund.) g |
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How does one go about writing a news article for C/F please? I found the News page but couldn't see how to compose an article.
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
1,075.000 [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] -75.00 -6.52% :D
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Hi Emma :waving: :D |
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What is quite interesting to note, is that although the share price is at what must be an all time low, there are no big investors buying in for the long term. |
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