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2/11 Esther McVey. ... 3/11 Michael Gove. ... 4/11 Dominic Raab. ... 5/11 Amber Rudd. ... 6/11 Sajid Javid. ... 7/11 Jeremy Hunt. ... 8/11 David Davis. Boris Johnson, former foreign secretary Resigned from the cabinet over May’s Chequers plan last July. Has argued that a no-deal exit would reflect the result of the 2016 referendum. The former mayor of London was once seen as the “Heineken candidate” capable of reaching voters other Tories could not. But his star has waned among Tory MPs left unimpressed by his two years as foreign secretary. His popularity among Tory activists would give him a strong chance of winning if he made the final shortlist, but he might be blocked by a determined “stop Boris” campaign already being planned by his critics. If successful, the move would anger many Tory activists. Andrea Leadsom, former Commons leader Resigned from the cabinet on the eve of the European elections, saying she no longer believed the government’s approach would deliver the Brexit referendum result the people voted for. She showed her inexperience in the 2016 leadership election, withdrawing to leave May as the last candidate standing after making comments appearing to suggest she would make a better leader because she had children. The former Commons leader has strong support among Brexiteers. Sajid Javid, home secretary Backed Remain in 2016 referendum despite his Eurosceptic instincts. Now a keen Brexiteer, and prepared to keep a no-deal exit on the table. Has consistently challenged May in cabinet meetings. Ambitious and has a brilliant backstory as the son of Pakistani bus driver who came to the UK with £1 in his pocket. But appears to be suffering from the curse of being one of the frontrunners in the Tory race. His stock has fallen recently after what some MPs see as unforced errors such as his handling of migrants crossing the English channel and his decision to strip Isis schoolgirl Shamima Begum of her UK citizenship. Jeremy Hunt, foreign secretary Remainer who briefly supported a Final Say referendum on the Brexit deal after the 2016 vote. Now rejects the idea, and is seen as a born-again Brexiteer who also wants to keep a no-deal departure on the table. His pitch would be as the candidate who could unite the Tories’ warring factions. Tory members might judge him too much of a Remainer. Critics worry that his long stint as health secretary could return to haunt him at a general election. Could benefit from a slide in Javid’s fortunes, but will not want to overtake him to become the frontrunner. Michael Gove, environment secretary Along with Johnson, headed the victorious Vote Leave campaign in the 2016 referendum. Even his critics admit he is one of the few successful departmental ministers since his surprise return to May’s cabinet in 2017, a year after she sacked him. Has been a loyal and articulate promoter of the withdrawal agreement. Critics see this as in part an attempt to shed his reputation as an assassin who turned on Johnson to run for the leadership in 2016. Gove’s refusal to join other Brexiteers in resigning from the cabinet might count against him among Eurosceptics. However, many of them are now coming round to his strategy of getting the deal “over the line” to save Brexit. Dominic Raab, former Brexit secretary Eurosceptic former chief of staff to David Davis, and followed his path by becoming and then resigning as Brexit secretary, complaining he was kept out of the loop by May and her civil service negotiator Olly Robbins. Displayed a grip on the detail while in the job, and impressed May allies in the 2016 referendum when he campaigned for Leave. But did not impress Brussels officials. A fresh face, although his relative lack of cabinet experience could count against him. But a dark horse to watch in a leadership race. Has a big decision to make: will he back May’s deal if Johnson does, or decide to have clean hands and oppose it to the end, and potentially be on the losing side? Matt Hancock, health secretary [B]A new entrant in the leadership race and, at 40, could be the youngest candidate. A rare breed in the May government as a survivor of David Cameron’s regime: before becoming an MP in 2010, he was chief of staff to George Osborne. Impressed as culture secretary, as one of the few UK politicians to understand the digital era and power of the internet giants. Has also shown grip in a testing job since his promotion to health and social care secretary. Smooth media performer who does not lack ambition. Described by some MPs as “a better version of Jeremy Hunt”, he is Remainer-turned-Leaver who could unite his fractious party. Has gone into bat for May’s deal when others kept their head down. Could be part of a “stop Boris” drive in which Johnson’s rivals try to share out MPs’ votes to keep him off the shortlist. Seen by some Tories as the leader after next. Esther McVey A Brexit supporter and former TV presenter, Esther McVey quit as work and pensions secretary last November in protest at Mrs May's withdrawal agreement with the EU. Asked on Talk Radio whether she would run for leader, the MP for Tatton, in Cheshire, said: "I've always said quite clearly that if I got enough support from colleagues then, yes, I would, and now people have come forward and I have that support." Priti Patel Elected as MP for Witham in May 2010, she served as a minister in the Treasury and Department of Work and Pensions before being appointed international development secretary. She resigned from the cabinet in 2017 after disclosures she had held a series of unofficial meetings with senior Israeli figures. But she is admired on the right of the party for her strong pro-Brexit stance. Penny Mordaunt Penny Mordaunt became the UK's first female defence secretary in May this year after Gavin Williamson was sacked With a background as a naval reservist, and having served as an armed forces minister under David Cameron, Ms Mordaunt seemed well prepared for the role. The former international development secretary was a high-profile campaigner for the Leave campaign during the 2016 EU referendum and underlined her pro-Brexit credentials by backing Andrea Leadsom in the subsequent Conservative leadership contest. This time around, she is touted as a contender in her own right. Sir Graham Brady The long-standing chairman of the Conservative backbench 1922 Committee resigned his position shortly after Mrs May’s announcement and said he was considering running. "I have been urged by a number of colleagues from across the party from inside Parliament, and outside, asking me to put myself forward as a candidate," he told the BBC. "Therefore, I have made the decision to stand down as chair of the 1922 Committee in order to ensure a fair and transparent election process.” Sir Graham, knighted in the 2018 New Year Honours, has been a Conservative MP since 1997, chairing the 1922 Committee since 2010. Amber Rudd A leading cabinet Remainer, Amber Rudd resigned as home secretary in April last year over the Windrush scandal, after many people from Commonwealth countries who had legally lived in Britain for decades were wrongly classed as illegal immigrants and deported. She returned six months later, replacing Esther McVey as work and pensions secretary, after an investigation blamed officials for the debacle. She spearheads a 60-strong bloc of Tories called the One Nation Conservative Caucus, a group opposing a no-deal Brexit. "The Conservative Party is entering a new phase and we here in this room are determined to shape that phase. Sometimes our voices aren't heard quite as vocally as they should be," she told the launch. Rory Stewart The former prisons minister was appointed international development secretary in early May, in a reshuffle that followed Gavin Williamson's sacking. Although once a Remain supporter, he said he accepted Brexit but wanted "to reach out to Remain voters as well to bring this country together again". "The only way I can do that is by moving beyond my brief and beginning to lay out, whether it's on climate change or any of these other issues, what I think it would mean to be a country we can be proud of," he told the BBC's Political Thinking With Nick Robinson podcast. Liz Truss A Brexit-friendly right-winger, the chief secretary to the Treasury has been making thinly veiled leadership speeches for some time. The MP for South West Norfolk was the first woman justice secretary. She caused a stir on social media in her earlier role of environment secretary when she told the Tory party conference in a dramatic voice that "we import two-thirds of our cheese. That. Is. A. Disgrace”. ---------- Post added at 01:54 ---------- Previous post was at 01:53 ---------- I thought a seperate post might be better for this please post up if I have forgot anyone? Maybe we should do a poll? |
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I see a few on there that 'drift with the tide' regarding Brexit.
Doubt I could trust anyone that can't make a decision and stick to it. come to think of it, that rules out just about everyone above the position of door knob polisher and cushion arranger doesn't it |
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It baffles me when they say there's lots of talent in the party,if there is i can't see it.
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Of those only Rory Stewart seems potentially able to unite the party. Amber Rudd has already withdrawn.
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I thought they were trying to put a stop to anyone pro brexit? which kind of rules out Esther McVey as I'm sure she said no deal was a prefered option.
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Boris might be the popular choice amongst the lower ranks and non-members, but he is considered total poison by the higher ranks and those-who-must-be-obeyed.
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I like Gove. He has a reputation for being talented, smart and effective. He is a Leaver too. It's only his steadfast support for the Withdrawal agreement that would do him in but the Tories want to win elections I think he would be a good choice for them. |
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The electorate voted for it, and their will should be accepted. This is a democracy, after all, and a promise is a promise. |
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But we don’t want to ask them again, because with new information we think they may have changed their mind.
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Michael Gove makes his play for the Tory leadership.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48411784 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...jeremy-corbyn/ |
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I agree with Damien that Rory Stewart is the only decent choice. After what Gove did to Teaching (and to Boris), he does not make the grade.
The problem is that decency is not longer the required characteristic for this job .. |
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Esther Mcvey just hit the nail on the head,on the Sophie Ridge show
"We must pick a side and that side is the one that won the referendum We must leave at the end of october deal or no deal " |
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I reckon Ether would make a good leader, straight talking northern lass even though she is a scouser.
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All interesting stuff, and the general theme seems to be that whoever ends up in Number 10 will be there not because they are a competent leader, but because of who they did/didn't fall foul of in the past
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In 2016 the electorate were offered a second referendum on membership of the EU. Based on information we did not have back in 1975 a majority of the electorate who could be bothered to vote decided we should leave. Egro we have already had 2 referendums (referenda?) the second being based on more information than available on the first. |
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You always demand proof when someone doesn't agree with your take on things, but you come up with this garbage with absolutely no proof whatsoever. A second referendum is totally unnecessary and would waste even more time as well as increase divisions in the country still further. We don't want that, we want to get on with Brexit. The public already feel betrayed because we missed the March deadline and Theresa May failed to take the opportunity then to get out with no deal. |
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A second (third for the benefit of whoever claimed we've had two) referendum would be an effective use of time - it would be decisive and eliminate all of the criticisms of the first. It'd also give a clear mandate to Parliament to deliver - something it has not done so far and will not do come October. |
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If it is a protest vote does that not send a message that the electorate want the result of the referendum to be carried out as promised? |
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Another referendum would simply confuse an already complex situation, which of course is what you want. |
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If it was to stand up at a general election, with the looming fear of Marxism, it'd be interesting to see. We might get to find out in the Autumn. |
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We would welcome a 2nd Ref and a General Election.
I think Remain and Labour, respectively, are seriously mis-calculating the countries feelings outside of the M25. The Local Elections gave notice to the main parties that their vote is not guaranteed. The Brexit party didn’t field candidates so the winners by default were the LibDems and independents. LibDems vote was not because of their Remain ticket. We’ll see at the EU elections how well hey do on their Remain ticket, I predict not too great. Any 2nd ref would result in a very narrow win for either side, I would still go for Leave by a whisker. Any GE would result in a hung parliament. I would preferably exit the EU then hold the GE in 2022 when we had time for the dust to settle and Labour to come up with a policy. |
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The calls for a new referendum/GE have been from some remainers.
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I think Pierre meant 'I' not 'we'.
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There's members of this forum that voted remain and have since changed their minds, I wonder if there's still more that have decided not to make it public too or what it might translate to amongst the general populace :shrug::eeek:
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Well, the leave parties won by a margin of 17.8%, so I would say the Brexit debate is now over. We need to leave the EU and the next leader of the Conservative Party will need to work out how to achieve that by 31 October latest.
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We are not turning this thread in to another Brexit debate.
While I accept Brexit can naturally crop up, I do not want to see the same arguments about the pros and cons of Brexit appearing in this thread - they will be deleted if I see them. This thread is purely about the Tory leadership. |
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One thing thats common with all the candidates is they care more about being PM than Brexit. Once power is grabbed their principles will desert them. Boris in particular took an age to decide which side he was on when the referendum was announced, hardly committed ! Indeed he wrote an article for backing Remain in the Times, before then deciding to back Leave 2 days later! https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3370296.html
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Every one and their dog thinks it's going to be Boris,that's what i'm picking up from the TV.
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Taking a look across the pond at the 23 Democratic candidates makes 11 candidates for PM seem reasonable.
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Amusingly, there are now more Conservative leadership candidates (11) than there are Conservative MEPs (9).
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When you watch interviews like this one, it is unthinkable that any sane person would want Boris for PM:
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48445430 My thoughts are that regardless of what happens the tories will not want a potential leader to be anywhere near this as they attempt to rebuild the party and it's profile. They'll want whiter than white (image, not race) |
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Boris might self-detonate on the campaign trial again.
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Which back stabber shall we pick then?
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Today, I'm officially announcing I'm standing for leadership of the Conservative Party. I'm not a member but shouldn't be a problem, as lying is a prerequisite.
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It’s not a prerequisite, just desirable (in the job description). |
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That’s like thinking if Mr K said "I like carrots", interpreting it to mean "I hate all other vegetables"... ;) |
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What you thought they thought they meant they thought isn’t always what they thought you’d think they’d thought (I think). ;) |
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I have seen Trump in action and the last thing we need is another buffoon. But I do want a sensible Brexiteer with vision!! |
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The closest to that is Michael Gove. |
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The best vision for Brexit is to put it in the bin.
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This thread is entirely about the election of the next PM so lets keep the other topic out of it..
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The more I listen to Rory Stewart, the more I like him and the more I am fearful of the ones likely to win. In this interview, he very articulately explains why a No Deal Brexit is so wrong, amongst other things.
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David Cameron's memoirs will highlight Michael Gove's betrayal of him
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Getting absolutely bored stupid with everyone and his dog getting their names & faces in the media saying how a 'no deal' Brexit will damage the country beyond belief . . .
erm, how about getting your heads together and trying to work out a deal that is agreeable to both the UK and the EU then . . . because if you don't, then it's gonna happen oh I forgot, nobody wants us to leave, especially the EU :rolleyes: |
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