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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Alexander Hanff ---------- Post added at 22:50 ---------- Previous post was at 22:44 ---------- OK Jason from UKFSN is confirmed as one of the guest speakers for the event. Details on UKFSN can be found here. Alexander Hanff |
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I'm having an email exchange with the police right now. They wish to know the exact section of the RIPA Act which I allged BT have broken. Can someone please quote the relevant passages?
They also won't accept Emma Sandersons admission on Channel 4 as evidence, since they claim it would not stand up in court. Does anyone have access to a statement by Emma Sanderson or otherwise some other kind of proof that the illegal trials took place? Thanks! |
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BTW that bt.custhelp.com url IP was interesting the other day, an internal NTL/VM cable network server ip infact. http://www.beta.bt.com/bta/forums/me...ID=23586#23586 Posted: May 27, 2008 10:53 PM " " R Jones wrote: Following my complaints about the difficulty involved in finding out information about Webwise through the official BT sites such as BTYahoo Help pages and the search box on www.bt.com I was referred by the moderator to the bt.custhelp.com "Help and Support" pages, which include the Ask Emma facility [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] Although a customer seeking information on Webwise from BT might not immediately think of the Support tab on www.bt.com it does return one hit when asked about webwise. (that's the site hosted by rightnowtech/NTLInernet - 81.110.142.41, Registrant: RightNow Technologies 40 Enterprise Blvd Bozeman, MT 59718 US Domain Name: RIGHTNOWTECH.COM) Just for the record - that site is giving out either wrong or out of date information and does not appear to have been modified at all in the light of the developments of the last month. snip, snip Come on BT, the quality of this information is awful. Aren't you embarrassed?" david P said: interesting, i happen to have access to an NTL/Virgin Media cable network.... the pings are appalling right now (due to STM DPI kit probably)but. tracert 81.110.142.41 1private, 2 <********* >dont want to 3 <369 ms 208 ms 176 ms >give anything away 4 224 ms 339 ms 266 ms bagu-t3core-1b-ge-017-0.inet.ntl.com http://195.182.179.185 5 132 ms 215 ms 233 ms lee-bb-b-so-130-0.inet.ntl.com http://80.5.161.157 6 132 ms 120 ms 245 ms pop-bb-a-as1-0.inet.ntl.com http://213.105.175.130 7 277 ms 200 ms 197 ms popl-t3core-1a-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com http://213.105.174.233 8 47 ms 41 ms 37 ms popl-lam-2-pos000.inet.ntl.com http://62.255.81.42 9 356 ms 259 ms 302 ms 62.255.94.54 10 223 ms 214 ms 20 ms vipuk01.rightnowtech.com http://81.110.142.41 Trace complete. and this is also very interesting, so many companys custhelp services dependant on a single NTL/VM IP address staying up if nothing else.... the NTL hardware is suprisingly good at staying up, i just hope the peered gateways are far better at latency than the direct internal NTL/VM home customers are getting ATM from the Baguley NW headend [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/we...on-web-server/ Remote Address :81.110.142.41 Found 131 domains hosted on the same web server as 81.110.142.41. airtours.custhelp.com aqa-examiners.custhelp.com aqa-examsofficers.custhelp.com aqa-metrics.custhelp.com aqa-teachers.custhelp.com asknet-de.custhelp.com asknet-en.custhelp.com athome.custhelp.com bango.custhelp.com basingstokeanddeane.custhelp.com bathspa.custhelp.com bbc-mca.custhelp.com bca.custhelp.com bogo.custhelp.com bogous.custhelp.com boylesports.custhelp.com bt.custhelp.com btbusiness-preview.custhelp.com btbusiness.custhelp.com btfleet.custhelp.com btsupport.custhelp.com btvoip.custhelp.com btybb.custhelp.com btydialup.custhelp.com callmobile.custhelp.com carrentals.custhelp.com carrick.custhelp.com cartesis.custhelp.com ceridian-metrics.custhelp.com ceridian.custhelp.com ceridianuk.custhelp.com charitycommission.custhelp.com cm-flintshire.custhelp.com cm-gwynedd.custhelp.com comet.custhelp.com congstar.custhelp.com cornwall-metrics.custhelp.com cornwall.custhelp.com cumbria.custhelp.com cusn.custhelp.com de-bango.custhelp.com denbighshire-en.custhelp.com digidesign.custhelp.com digitalmaidstone-metrics.custhelp.com digitalmaidstone.custhelp.com easycar.custhelp.com ebay-de.custhelp.com ebay-it.custhelp.com ebay-uk.custhelp.com edexcelexperts.custhelp.com equilon.custhelp.com eretail.custhelp.com eretail2.custhelp.com est.custhelp.com flintshire-en.custhelp.com flythomascook.custhelp.com freedomdirect.custhelp.com g4s-internal.custhelp.com gps-nav.custhelp.com gwynedd-en.custhelp.com holidayautos.custhelp.com imnetfr.custhelp.com infoco-en.custhelp.com innocentdrinks.custhelp.com kabeldeutschland.custhelp.com kaccess.custhelp.com kerrier-dc.custhelp.com kiddicare.custhelp.com lastminute-france-french.custhelp.com lastminute-italy-italian.custhelp.com lastminute-spain-spanish.custhelp.com lastminute-uk-english.custhelp.com leicestershire.custhelp.com marktplaats.custhelp.com marktplaats4.custhelp.com moj.custhelp.com mojdg.custhelp.com monster-uken.custhelp.com mycashbackclaim.custhelp.com mytravel.custhelp.com naa.custhelp.com nectarjaal2.custhelp.com nepic.custhelp.com ns.custhelp.com o2online.custhelp.com onlinesupport.nildram.net optimal-se.custhelp.com optimal-se2.custhelp.com paddypower2.custhelp.com photobox-en.custhelp.com photobox-fr.custhelp.com pioneer-customerrelations.custhelp.com pioneer.custhelp.com qca.custhelp.com resfeber-denmark-danish.custhelp.com resfeber-norway-norwegian.custhelp.com resfeber-sweden-swedish.custhelp.com rtcnorth.custhelp.com sabmiller.custhelp.com sedo-de.custhelp.com sedo-de1.custhelp.com sedo-fr1.custhelp.com sedo-int.custhelp.com sedo-int1.custhelp.com sedo-us.custhelp.com sedo-us1.custhelp.com service.transavia.com solid-state-logic-en.custhelp.com stoke.custhelp.com sunrise.custhelp.com support.freedom2surf.net support.streamserve.com support.take2games.com tomtom-uk.custhelp.com travelocity-india-english.custhelp.com tsn.custhelp.com tss.custhelp.com uk-tiscali.custhelp.com validis.custhelp.com versatel.custhelp.com virginatlantic.custhelp.com voip.nildram.net wag-cy.custhelp.com wag-en.custhelp.com warhammeronline.custhelp.com www.123-support.co.uk www.btsupport.net www.nildram.net www.webfusion-support.co.uk www.webfusion-support.com zuji-apac-english.custhelp.com A reverse IP domain check takes a domain name or IP address pointing to a web server and searches for other sites known to be hosted on that same web server. Data is gathered from search engine results, which are not guaranteed to be complete. Knowing the other web sites hosted on a web server is important from both an SEO and web filtering perspective, particularly for those on shared web hosting plans. More about this tool." |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
OK, Alex, I've added your 'Press Release' to the Phormwatch website.
Keep up the good work. |
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FIPR concluded that there was;
You could also mention the criminal liability under paragraph 107 and 110 of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 (given that BT Directors must have been aware they were copying material marked with copyright by owners who have the *exclusive right* to distribute copies). To quote "UK Intellectual Property Office"; "Copyright applies to computing and the internet in the same way as material in other media. For example, any photographs you place on the internet will be protected in the same way as other artistic works; any original written work will be protected as a literary work, and so on."Is this IPCC you're in dialog with, or the Police? Why wouldn't Emma Sandersons TV confession stand up in court? What could be a more flagrant admission? Seems Police are absolutely determined to ignore this if they possibly can, and we mustn't let them. PS Sorry Alexander. This is your turf ;) You can add something too I bet. Computer Misuse Act etc. |
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I agree with Dephormation here - it's quite clear that the police don't want to investigate this, possibly because it won't fill quotas or some such. It'll be nice when the police realise that we don't part with our hard-earned through hefty taxes so they can investigate things that they want to, but things that the public want them to. |
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
BT CUSTOMERS BEWARE
Do not log into the BT site, then visit any Phorm/third party operated web site with a *.bt.com subdomain; eg webwise.bt.com www.webwise.bt.com BT.com seem to be using a Siteminder security system that sets one or more cookies in the bt.com domain (potentially including your email address, and a security credential which authenticates you to BT.com). A third party able to impersonate your IP address may be able to access your account details using a copy of the same security credential (SMSESSION cookie) revealed by your browser. Cookies affected; SMSESSION = (Netegrity site minder encrypted cookie)A Phorm/third party web site may have access to your email address (even if you do not enter that email address into any contact forms). Cookies affected; btcom.userName = (email address)If my analysis is correct (I'd appreciate independent confirmation by a BT subscriber with Netegrity Siteminder knowledge, or sufficient tech insight to confirm the presence and configuration of the cookies manually) this is a very serious privacy and security flaw. |
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My new tag when communicating with BT/Phorm "We're watching you, watching us" |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I'll get the 16th July off work tomorrow, so people better show up :)
Also I'm a member of the Barbican so I get 15% off in Barbican cafés, restaurants and bars. I guess I'll be buying myself a lot of food and beverages ;) More good news, http://www.donottrustwebwise.org has it's first win. I have a TalkTalk customer who is now looking for a new ISP. Amazing how these webs weave. |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Regarding the Police, perhaps we need to put together an 'information pack' which includes the appropriate legal sections, the various legislative answers (EU commision, Serial's reply, reply to the Earl of Northesk's question etc), which state that it is a Police responsibility. In short, everything the police would need to proceed.
We use this to make a mass complaint on the first day of the BT trials. (Maybe wait a day or so to try to get information about the ongoing trial?) We complain about the BT trials in the past and that we have good reason to believe the crimes may be ongoing. Also, if they fail to respond, given the responses from the various government bodies, we will complain to the IPCC. Given the Phorm share price, they must be on to BT every hour to start the trial. BT legal bods must be pressing to delay it to try to cover as many issues as possible. We all know about the mistakes that BT make. EDIT : Anyone know about the BT Unions stance on this? Would they have concerns that their members may be asked to break the law? |
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