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The thing Is, what can WE, the paying customers do about all this anti-privacy nonesence? I would've thought that the best way to save money in ANY business would be to somehow get the top dogs (that sit on their fat asses smoking all day) to take a pay reduction, how is such a high salary justified, what, just cos of the title (MD, snr manager etc) just like with the govenment, they get paid obscene amounts to screw up this country, IF they was forced to take a 10% pay decrease, just think how much more money woulod be availible for ESSENTIALS, such as schools, hospitals etc, but that is gettin slightly off-topic! IF & WHEN this becomes policy, I will give VM 2 choices, STOP monitoring my internet usage OR lose my custom & incur a visit to the small claims court! |
Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 77 & 102]
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Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 77 & 102]
There have been representations made, which has resulted in the specific update posts #77 and #102. If we hear of further developments these too will get reported although at present everything to do with this is based on very little solid information with neither Virgin or Phorm providing any real idea of when they intend this to start, or how it would work. Rest assured however that thread's like this, here and indeed on other forum's do, as a whole come to the attention of people at VM, where the strength of feeling being expressed can have an effect.
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Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 77 & 102]
I hadn't realised Mick had contacted VM with his Cable Forum hat on, I had assumed it was as a disgruntled downtrodden VM customer.
Fair do's to the team. Keep up the good work:tu: |
Re: Virgin Media Ad Deal [Updated: See Post No. 77 & 102]
What is most shocking is that there are now 11 users who have voted they dont mind there data being sold to Phorm. :shocked:
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The less that agree to this the better |
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But as I said earlier the 11 voters would probably kick up a big fuss if we all camped out on their door step and or started watching their every move, in the house by looking through their windows, or watching them in the street. |
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Here's a thought.
5 comp's in my house all online, connecting through the router. Husband on one comp. 17yr old daughter and myself using mine. 15yr old daughter on her comp. 12yr old daughter on her comp. 10yr old daughter on her comp. Now, if my husband regularly surfs for porn, not saying he does, I don't know and I don't care, he lives on WOW, but say he does. If I'm into meeting guys to have wild sex or I surf the net looking for vibrators, sex toys, edible lingerie. For the record, I'm not and I don't. If I haven't opted out and bear in mind we all connect through the router, Will my children be subjected to ads for vibrators and big breasted Bertha putting on a show?????? How will they determine what ads go where? |
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Not even sure I understand it now...
Are they proposing to interfere with ads served by other sites, just how far reaching is this - after all, an ad-network can run with cookies, with no involvement of an ISP. As for anti-phising, the "good" feature that this is using as a trojan horse to cajole support of their ad/spware activities, there are many other ways to implement that - IE7 has one built in. It seems like this means intercepting all traffic, a return to unreliable proxies? |
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I can remember spending hours removing all the porn popups from one persons computer that was being served up night in night out by 121 media Aka Phorm. |
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I would, of course, be happy to see technical details from Virgin or Phorm about how their system gets past this little problem (although I don't think it does), but I doubt I will. Quote:
Back to browsers, Opera also has an anti-phising feature, and even if Firefox doesn't, I am sure someone has written an extension to enable it. Not to mention anyone of a number of all in one "Internet Security" suites that offer this feature. |
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I imagine (in response to multiple computers through NAT) it will become more and more the onus upon the account holder to defend themselves.
There will be a link to phorm to opt out completely and they will ask you to visit it on all devices that can access the internet so one users data doesn't cross over. There will be another link to contact a customer service operative for larger organisations on a case by case basis where they will block an IP from all adverts that are remote third party risky, but push through those from respected advertisers without using keywords, so a safe advert policy. Along with a requirement to renew this every 6 months say on a rolling basis. To avoid every customer using this they can implement very strict filters on the sites you can visit through the phishing mechanism for your IP, so anything "rated 18" will be blocked and logged, then queried as to why you need an exception on this basis for your internet facing IP and a recommendation you switch back to the cookie method of opting out for individual devices. |
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