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Well I guess Cineworld and Showcase will be rubbing their hands at the thought of all those extra customers wanting to see Universal films.
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Cineworld have joined them.
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Doesn't surprise me and good for them. Cinema chains need to make a stand early on and let studios know that if it is ok for cinemas to lose money then movie studios can lose money as well. It would have been a win-win for the studios to dual release on multiple platforms but if they know they are going to lose hundreds of millions $$$ if they cant show it at the cinema it will make them think twice.
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China chains need to take note, the world is changing and they need to adapt.
Releasing a movie on demand the same day as a cinema release, will not harm them that much. Not everyone will want to order a film for rental at £15 a pop. Many will still want to see on the big screen. At the end of the day boycotting a studio will only harm themselves and their profits. |
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Yeah I'm not paying that much for a rental. I'd rather go cinema and spend roughly that amount on a better experience.
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If they vanished around here, I would stop going to the cinema. So how is less customers helpful to them ? I certainly wont be rushing to pay and watch them at home. |
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No matter which way you look at it it is bad for the cinemas. People like you and I may still make the effort to go to the cinema but I imagine at least half the time families will think twice and try and stay in with children and say they'll get a pizza from Asda and some sweets and have a cinema at home and save a fortune. The chances of everybody still going to the cinema and nobody watching vod on release is 0 so cinemas are going to lose money, it is just a question of whether it is 5% of your customers, 10% or I would say more likely 20%.
Unless you are a movie fan most people only go to the cinema a few times a year to see the big films so when other films come round that you could perhaps you could compromise on you are going to do it and this year's film list has many examples. Without going through all of them, I think we can all agree that we would have been happy watching Underwater, Fantasy Island and The Invisible Man at home at not venturing out to the cinema for it for all the expense it incurs. |
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A couple of interesting bits of information:
1)The next live action Transformers movie is in the works and due to be released in 2022 2) John Wick which was originally planned for release alongside the new Matrix film next year has been pushed back to 2022 3) I recently posted a trailer for Extraction, it is a Netflix film starring Chris Hemsworth and made by the Russo brothers who did Avengers Infinity War etc. It has been an enormous success and is currently the most popular film on the planet and Netflix's biggest film ever. I am well chuffed for them as it will encourage Netflix and other studios to throw money at them in the future to make more quality series and films. |
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That's good news. A lot of people are looking forward to Tenet. If anything I would have thought cinemas would be the easiest social venues to reopen because they have structured seating which can be adjusted and social seating enforced. It is like Battleships, you just block off (prevent them from being booked on the computer) all the squares (seats) around one square.
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Demolition Man 2 in the works, lets hope they get Sandra Bullock back as well.
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It looks like a Scream continuation is in the works. I loved those films as they were the only horrors I can stomach as they have got normal killable bad guys. I hope they can get Neve Campbell back for it as well.
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nope, can't stand them. "all my fiends are dying and I know I am next but oh.....what's that?...…. a strange noise down that pitch black alley...….let me go and investigate by myself with no weapon"
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Scream was such a clever movie. It took the typical slasher film and was one of the first meta horror films. It made the plot so much more interesting and not as obvious. Made you think about it a bit more. It wasn't just a bad person or an evil force. It was pretty clever.
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Previously mentioned that a Hunger Games prequel was in the works. It has now been confirmed that Francis Lawrence is back to direct along with the original producer. Well chuffed, it means we are guaranteed the same feel, tone and quality that we have had previously.
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There were a select few of you who loved it so I think you'll be delighted to know there is probably going to be a third Mamma Mia film
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The UK’s largest chain of cinemas has pushed back its scheduled reopening date by three weeks, in response to further delays to the opening of key titles such as Mulan and Tenet.
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Everyone skim reading should note that Odeon are stick on track to open from this weekend as mentioned previously in another thread. Even though the films available aren't worth watching it will give staff a chance to get used to the new environment and put their training into practise so they are ready for Tenet and Mulan at the end of the month.
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Disney has removed Mulan from its release calendar.
Star Wars and Avatar sequels pushed back a year. StarWars • Dec. 22, 2023 • Dec. 19, 2025 • Dec. 17, 2027 Avatar • 'Avatar 2' — Dec. 16, 2022 • 'Avatar 3' — Dec. 20, 2024 • 'Avatar 4' — Dec. 18, 2026 • 'Avatar 5' — Dec. 22, 2028 Link |
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As well as Mulan, Tenet has also been removed indefinitely.
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Where as Bill and Ted 3 is still coming out on 1st September in cinemas AND with a digital release.
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Considering Trolls World tour, which got a digital release at the beginning of lockdown and made more money than the original did during its cinema release.
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Glad you mentioned Trolls World Tour. This could be a reason why other studios won't do it.
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They'll soon be the loosers though. With cinemas either closed or at reduced capacity due to social distancing and many people not willing to attend cinemas they will end up loosing box office money.
Doing a digial release along side cina releases really should be the normal thing going forward. |
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There will be at least two more John Wick films.
John Wick 5 is set to be filmed alongside John Wick 4. The TV series (The Continental) is also still on track, due between JW4 & JW5. |
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Brilliant, i love those films and there is so much more story to tell
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Chadwick Boseman aka Black Panther has died. Absolutely gutted :(
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So shocking, especially when we didn't know he was sick. So young too.
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yeah. I am hoping they have got a tonne of footage they haven't previously used and will be able to do something, even if it is completely fake and CG, to have him in the next film briefly and facilitate the transition to a different character.
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Well it's been subject to a number of production delays that were chalked up to Marvel adjusting it's releasing schedule for the new phase of films. Maybe that wasn't the reason....
I highly suspect that they knew he had cancer. It's almost a certainty they knew as he would have various medical and insurance checks for the role and it would have been hard to keep his treatment secret during the filming of Black Panther and Avengers. So they probably already do have an outline of what they intend to do. |
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I think all of you know Mulan will be released tomorrow for £19.99 on Disney+.
For those who don't want to pay Disney plan on making it free in December. |
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I am really looking forward to Mulan, I wish they had done a simultaneous dual release for VoD and cinema because I would have gone to the cinema to see it.
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Same but I'm not paying that price to see it on VoD. I'll wait till December to see it.
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I know most people who want Disney+ will have got it by now but releasing Mulan for free on the normal service would have surely garnered a few more subscribers from those who were wavering.
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They will be losing a lot of money by skipping the theatrical release so I guess charging 19.99 will earn them a lot of money instead.
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I also want theatres to maintain their exclusivity window. Much prefer seeing films in a cinema.
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It is well worth £20, it is a cracking film. I would have paid more than that had I gone to the cinema and paid for parking and sweets and popcorn etc.
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Cineworld is set to shut all 128 of its theatres in the UK and Ireland temporarily as a result of the Covid-19 pandemic according to media reports.
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Thats what I said would happen if all the big budget films keep being delayed
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I hope Odeon do the same. There is literally nothing to watch. I keep hanging on for the next big film but they keep getting delayed. It wouldn't be so bad if they made an effort to put decent films on as I have mentioned previously but it is just the same drivel week after week. I don't think things are going to change either. The government have said the current restrictions are going to be in place until March and that is if things don't get any worse. Cinema chains needs to think long and hard for when they open again because they can't rely on one big film coming out a month (thinking about James Bond and Black Widow in April/May) to prop them up.
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Cineworld are currently showing one Rocky film per day and have lots of older titles planned. However as much as people like older films its not selling tickets, hence their £4 ticket offer.
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Odeon aren't. Apart from Jurassic Park and Inception during the first week of reopening, they havent made any effort to decent films on, it is just the same twoddle week after week. Where is Avatar in 3D?
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Cineworld did show back to the Future last week. However there was only 3 showings and it was only one day. I couldn't get going because in Scotland the rules are 3 empty seats between people. However people that book were leaving 5 or six empty seat meaning it filled up really quickly. They also never got to show Empire Strines back up here as they didn't open till weeks after the English cinemas opened.
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I saw 'The Trial of the Chicago 7' today in a Curzon. A Netflix film getting a small theatical release. So there are some films coming out such as Nomanland but really the big budget films are obviously nowhere to be seen. I don't see how the massive multiplexes can survive without the Marvel and Bond films of this world.
What's sad is that cinemas seem quite safe to me. It's easy to keep wearing a mask, people can sit a few seats apart, everyone is facing foward and they aren't shouting at each other. It's a very controlled enviroment. Yet people who go to resturants, go shopping and go drinking feel unsafe in a cinema? |
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I think manu US cinema chains are still closed. So that is why the films are getting delayed. Its a shame as more than likely there won't be many cinema businesses left by next year and VOD rental will end up being the only options for them.
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Odeon Cinemas now set to go weekends only in the UK.
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I dont know why they are bothering tbh. I had a look this morning at what was on today and it is all dross and nothing starts before 15:00. I hope they do something with the limitless membership because it isnt fair.
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Looks great, I love Ryan Reynolds. The boxoffice stats for this year are laughable and I will be over the moon if this can perform reasonably well and clinch the No 1 spot for the year. It is definitely doable and would be a fantastic achievement for Ryan Reynolds and something to joke about in the future.
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Well from Thursday night Cineworld are officially closing, I got emailed earlier tonight. No word on how long for. I think if the film delays continue there will be no cinemas left by the start of 2021.
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BREAKING: Denis Villeneuve’s DUNE has been officially delayed to October 2021.
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I was waiting for it. By the end of this year I think you'll be able to count the number of blockbusters released on one hand. All I have been to see this year is 1917 (which I didn't want to see and only went because it has been nominated for a tonne of Oscars and there was nothing else to watch in January), Onward and Tennet.
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I havent been to the cinema in 2020 (yet).
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Some thoughts from the boss of the UK’s third largest cinema chain Vue.
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That's good. It isn't the type of film you need to see at the cinema and at least we know we are going to get to see a new film this year and they aren't putting it back till summer. I really hope they keep Free Guy at the cinema. I honestly think people will make the effort to go and see it.
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AMC in the US owns Odeon in the UK. The continuous disruption by coronavirus to filming this year is no doubt going to further impact release dates for next year. I think it would be absolutely fantastic if Odeon did what AMC are doing and come up with a list of 50 or so classic blockbusters from the last 30 years (plus all Star Wars and MCU films) and let people hire a screen and choose their film. I would love to do that. Just imagine hiring a screen for the day and watching all of LOTR again or the Matrix trilogy.
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Power Rangers is being given a reboot with new movies and a tv series on the way
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Johnny Depp has left the Fantastic Beasts franchise as a result of his legal woes
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Thats disappointing. Was hoping for a decent film to watch over Christmas.
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Yeah, I was really looking forward to Free Guy as well. It will be interesting to see what happens with the easing of lockdown restrictions next week and if we get Wonder Woman mid-December.
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Another Predator film is in the works which is good news. I love the Aliens, Predator and AVP franchises.
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New Stargate in the works.
Brad Wright said this today. " I just want everybody to know that MGM and I are working on something. It’s just too early to talk about. And it’s partly too early because there is a pandemic going on. And that’s kind of ground a few things to a halt. But we are working on something. It’s very exciting. It’s something that we have been talking about for a while now. And I love it — I’m excited to have the possibility of making it someday soon. Or someday, period! I’ll say this much: It exists in the universe that you already know. It’s not a reboot, it’s not a completely new thing. It’s a continuation. And I’ll leave it at that. I’m not allowed to say anything more! I’m sworn to secrecy." |
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Absolutely flipping brilliant news. I am so glad he is involved and I hope they get the old team back. SG1 and Atlantis were perfect and they don't need to change anything. I watched SG1 again during the first wave and the same names kept popping up over and over again like Brad Wright, Johnathan Glassner, Paul Mulli, Peter Deluise, Joseph Mallozzi, Martin Wood, Andy Mikita and a few others. It was a core team of around 8 people who took it in turn to direct, produce and write. Get them all back and make another superb series with todays visual effects. We don't need any of the bullshit we had with Star Trek Discovery like "we have got this guy called Fred who has come up with this exciting idea and wants to put his own spin on the show and bring it to a new audience bla bla bla". The fanbase for Stargate was and is huge and they know not to mess with it. As he has mentioned it is a continuation so I soooooo hope they take the opportunity to get the original cast like they have done with Picard. Although they are a bit older now there is no reason whatsoever for not getting Carter back purely as a scientist even if she has retired from the Airforce as a Colonel or General. If I win the euromillions on Tuesday I will give him all the money he wants to make magic happen.
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Wonder Woman 1984 in cinemas December 16, if cinemas are open. A week before the US
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By sounds of it Leeds will be 3, so won't be seeing it in cinema if that's the case. Hopefully we're not in 3 though. It'll be good to go cinema and see it.
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I think Leeds was in Tier 3 last time and from the sounds of it everyone will be going back to their original tier or the next one up. Tbh I don't think they would end the lockdown if they could get away with it. Infections are only just starting to level off, deaths are still high and we are getting into the worst time for the NHS. Easing lockdown now and putting Christmas on top is a recipe for disaster in January.
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Yeah I saw that. Hopefully we start to see a decrease soon enough. If a lot of the UK is tier 3 then I wonder if they'll just release it on Prime or something.
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My area is down to 163 cases per 100,000 atm.
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Called it. Leeds is in tier 3 so looks like won't be going to see it in cinema but I will get Christmas off which I've never had.
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Me too (Lincoln), cinemas will have to remain closed. For those who would like to check, the tier postcode checker website is down atm but there is a different webpage which lists all areas by area which you can look at below:
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Curzon cinemas in London opening on Friday. So I could watch Mank there if I wanted. Probably will get to watch Wonder Woman there though
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Upcoming Marvel Films ;
Black Widow Release Date: May 7, 2021 Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings Release Date: July 9, 2021 Eternals Release Date: November 5, 2021 Spider-Man: Far from Home Sequel [Untitled] Release Date: December 17, 2021 Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness Release Date: March 25, 2022 Thor: Love and Thunder Release Date: May 6, 2022 Black Panther 2 Release Date: July 8, 2022 Captain Marvel 2 Release Date: November 11, 2022 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 Release Date: TBC 2023 Blade Release Date: TBA Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania Release Date: TBA Fantastic Four Release Date: TBA |
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Another 3 years to wait for Guardians vol.3 :(
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