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vincerooney 18-11-2019 23:38

New tv which is 4k?
 
Hi all,

(mods if in the wrong section please move).

I've had my current 22inch tv for 10 years. Its from samsung and (touch wood) its done me proud. Its obviously HD and performed well but with 4k soon to be rolling out i was wondering if it was time to get a new one.
However here is the catch. I live in a box room. Right next to my tv is my computer (and i mean right next to it). I have inches inbetween... i can't even turn my tv around as its next to the window and the radiator.

So long story short. Does anyone know any 22-26inch tv (max) which are 4k and smart tv? I've checked argos, currys etc...but they all seem to be 22-24 inch but HD only. The smart tvs and 4k are like 40 to 50inches! Which won't fit in my room....

Any ideas?

cheekyangus 18-11-2019 23:50

Re: New tv which is 4k?
 
As TVs that are 4K are usually 40 inches minimum I think you might be better looking for a PC monitor. PC monitors often have higher resolutions in smaller sizes.

Obviously there's no in-built tuner, but all TV boxes with 4K will be HDMI, as will the PC monitors.

Note, I don't know what the smallest 4K monitor size is, but it's worth looking into.

Also not all monitors have speakers, or if they do not particularly good ones, so you may want to factor in a soundbar to connect to the TV box.

Mr K 19-11-2019 07:24

Re: New tv which is 4k?
 
Not worth it mate for that size TV, it'll make sod all difference. I seem to have survived without 4k, don't want a 5 foot monster take up the front room. Plus I watch a lot of SD archive TV which I shouldn't imagine fares too well on such screens.

daveeb 19-11-2019 10:41

Re: New tv which is 4k?
 
As mentioned 4K is pointless on a small screen tv even if you manage to find one. You really need to be sitting close to a big (55+cm) screen with a decent 4K source to get full value from 4K.

SnoopZ 19-11-2019 12:13

Re: New tv which is 4k?
 
For a piddly little TV like that is is pointless getting 4K as others has said.

Do you really need 1 that small? What you have to take into account with newer TVs is they hardly have a frame around the screen so if i was you i would measure diagonally and see if you can fit a 32in 1080p TV in its position.

Mr K 19-11-2019 12:39

Re: New tv which is 4k?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36017661)
For a piddly little TV like that is is pointless getting 4K as others has said.

Do you really need 1 that small? What you have to take into account with newer TVs is they hardly have a frame around the screen so if i was you i would measure diagonally and see if you can fit a 32in 1080p TV in its position.

Don't insult the guys tv ! Served him well for years, and might for years to come. Size isn't everything ;)

SnoopZ 19-11-2019 12:45

Re: New tv which is 4k?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36017664)
Don't insult the guys tv ! Served him well for years, and might for years to come. Size isn't everything ;)

lol

Mythica 19-11-2019 13:12

Re: New tv which is 4k?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36017646)
As mentioned 4K is pointless on a small screen tv even if you manage to find one. You really need to be sitting close to a big (55+cm) screen with a decent 4K source to get full value from 4K.

That isn't correct. What about small 4k monitors?

daveeb 19-11-2019 13:29

Re: New tv which is 4k?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 36017674)
That isn't correct. What about small 4k monitors?

Because they display text and small images that wouldn't look great close up on a TV.

newapollo 19-11-2019 14:36

Re: New tv which is 4k?
 
Have you got the room to mount the TV on a wall? If so you possibly get a 39, 40 or 43 inch 4K TV. I have a 43 inch Toshiba and the 4K is prefectly fine for me with that size. An added bonus is the set I have also has a satellite tuner alongiside freeview play.

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As an afterthought if you do decide to get a 4K TV, it may be worth checking on the BBC website to see if the BBC 4K content is compatable with the TV you chose. Most of their test programs in 4K use a higher standard. For the full benefit, you will need a 4K HDR TV that supports HLG. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/q...d-connected-tv

Mythica 19-11-2019 14:40

Re: New tv which is 4k?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36017675)
Because they display text and small images that wouldn't look great close up on a TV.

It would be a 4k monitor, displaying a 4k or 1080i image, it would be fine. I used to have a 24" 1200p monitor which I used for TV and it was fine. If viewed from the correct viewing distance, a small 4k monitor would be ideal.

BenMcr 19-11-2019 14:58

Re: New tv which is 4k?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 36017674)
As an afterthought if you do decide to get a 4K TV, it may be worth checking on the BBC website to see if the BBC 4K content is compatable with the TV you chose. Most of their test programs in 4K use a higher standard. For the full benefit, you will need a 4K HDR TV that supports HLG. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/q...d-connected-tv

The issue there is most of the HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2 TVs that would support the iPlayer for UHD are 32" and bigger.

You can get small HD HDR TVs but they don't seem to support an actual HDR input which makes a bit pointless.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 36017682)
It would be a 4k monitor, displaying a 4k or 1080i image, it would be fine. I used to have a 24" 1200p monitor which I used for TV and it was fine. If viewed from the correct viewing distance, a small 4k monitor would be ideal.

It all depends on the setup. With a monitor you generally need extra stuff like externally connected speakers to make it work as a TV setup.

You would also be reliant on the device that provides the input to do most of the control.

Mythica 19-11-2019 15:04

Re: New tv which is 4k?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36017683)
The issue there is most of the HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2 TVs that would support the iPlayer for UHD are 32" and bigger.

You can get small HD HDR TVs but they don't seem to support an actual HDR input which makes a bit pointless.


It all depends on the setup. With a monitor you generally need extra stuff like externally connected speakers to make it work as a TV setup.

You would also be reliant on the device that provides the input to do most of the control.

That is true but I was more responding to the point 4k is pointless on small screens.

vincerooney 19-11-2019 19:36

Re: New tv which is 4k?
 
Thanks for all this people! it makes sense with the lack of 4k tvs that size. Do we think this will ever change? Is there much difference between 4k and HD? In terms of "size" sadly i dont think i can fit in anymore than 22 inches....(ooh matron)

Maximum probably 32 inches but it'll be a tight fit

Raider999 19-11-2019 19:50

Re: New tv which is 4k?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36017694)
Thanks for all this people! it makes sense with the lack of 4k tvs that size. Do we think this will ever change? Is there much difference between 4k and HD? In terms of "size" sadly i dont think i can fit in anymore than 22 inches....(ooh matron)

Maximum probably 32 inches but it'll be a tight fit


I have a 32" HD TV as a 2nd TV - whereas the difference between SD and HD is noticeable on my 48" HD TV it is far less so on the smaller TV.

I would imagine that the same would apply when comparing UHD and HD.

As for watching a 22" TV haven't had one that small for about 30 years and couldn't imagine watching on anything that small.


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