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Media Boy UK 29-12-2022 16:33

Re: Freeview changes
 
Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused.

24 hours slots:
-Old Create and Craft Extra (Where Together TV/RealityXtra 2 broadcast) slot on COM4
-Old Quest slot on COM4
-Old Smithsonian Channel slot on COM5 from January 6th (7am to 3am)

Part time slots:
-Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only)

Slots information right as of December 29th.

What’s changing soon on Freeview:

Soon:
*SDN still got TWO 24 hour slots free for a broadcasters to launch / move to COM4 on Freeview - But SDN are letting use one of them right now by Together TV and RealityXtra 2.

ANY BROADCASTER WANT TO LAUNCH ON FREEVIEW?
*Together TV will need to stop broadcasting on that slot - Together TV are playing nothing on a week by week deal.
*A new 24 hour slot is free on COM4/SDN - Quest old slot for a broadcaster to launch / move to COM4/SDN on Freeview.
*From January 6th a new 24 hour slot for TV will become free soon on COM5 Smithsonian Channel old slot for a broadcaster to launch via COM5 on Freeview.
*BBC B Mux may have room to add up to two SD Channels.

Channels coming soon to Freeview:
January:
5th. GREAT! Movies Classics to be rebranded as GREAT! Movies Romance.
5th. Smithsonian Channel to close today on Freeview Channel 57.
5th. Dave Ja Vu to move from Freeview Channel 74 to Freeview Channel 57.
5th. Classic Hits to be rebranded as That's 60s.

By April 2023:
*BBC ONE East will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE East Yorkshire and Lincolnshire will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE London will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE East Midlands will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE North East of England and Cumbria will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE North West will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE South will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE South East will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE South West will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE West will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE West Midlands will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE Yorkshire will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE East HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101. (East of England, Cambridgeshire, Northamptonshire, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire and parts of Buckinghamshire areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE East Yorkshire and Lincolnshire HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (East Yorkshire and Lincolnshire areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE London HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (Greater London, Lots of Surrey, Parts of Essex, Parts Of Bedfordshire, Parts Of Buckinghamshire, Parts of Kent, Parts of Hertfordshire and Parts of West Sussex areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE East Midlands HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (East Midlands of England areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE North East of England and Cumbria HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (North East of England and Cumbria areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE North West HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (North West of England areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE South HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (Oxfordshire & Parts of Wiltshire, Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire and South of England areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE South East HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (Kent and East Sussex areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE South West HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (South West of England areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE West HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (West of England areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE West Midlands HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (West Midlands of England areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE Yorkshire HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (Yorkshire and North Midlands areas only).-BBC ONE HD relaunches on Freeview Channel 106.

All information is right as of December 29th.

Media Boy UK 31-12-2022 22:27

Re: Freeview changes
 
Base on my Freeview TV:

Smithsonian Channel has EPG for the 5th of January for Freeview but it change to "No listing" from 7am on January 6th after EPG says Channel back at 7am at 3am on January 6th.

Media Boy UK 05-01-2023 18:44

Re: Freeview changes
 
Freeview update:

*BBC One East E renamed BBC One East (In local area) on Channel 1
*BBC One East W renamed BBC One East (In local area) on Channel 1
*BBC One Oxford renamed BBC One South (In local area) on Channel 1

*GREAT! movies christmas becomes GREAT! romance [on Local mux] on Channel 52
*Smithsonian Channel closes on COM5 on Channel 57
*Dave Ja Vu moves from channel 74 to Channel 57 [COM4]

*GREAT! movies christmas becomes GREAT! romance [on Local mux] on Channel 52
*Smithsonian Channel closes on COM5 on Channel 57
*Dave Ja Vu moves from channel 74 to Channel 57 [COM4]

*GREAT! movies christmas +1 becomes GREAT! romance +1 Manchester only. [G_MAN] on Channel 63
*YESTERDAY +1 moves from Channel 75 to Channel 74
*That's 60s launches on Channel 75 [Smithsonian old slot on COM5]
*That's 70s launches [G_MAN] on Channel 76

*Classic Hits becomes That's 80s and move from Channel 88 to Channel 77
*That's 60s launches [G_MAN] on Channel 87
*Classic Hits becomes That's 80s and move from Ch 91 to Ch 88 [G_MAN]
*TV Warehouse +1 launches on Ch 91 [G_MAN]

---------- Post added at 18:44 ---------- Previous post was at 18:41 ----------

Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused.

24 hours slots:
-Old Create and Craft Extra (Where Together TV/RealityXtra 2 broadcast) slot on COM4
-Old Quest slot on COM4

Part time slots:
-Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only)

Slots information right as of January 5th.

What’s changing soon on Freeview:

Soon:
*SDN still got TWO 24 hour slots free for a broadcasters to launch / move to COM4 on Freeview - But SDN are letting use one of them right now by Together TV and RealityXtra 2.

ANY BROADCASTER WANT TO LAUNCH ON FREEVIEW?
*Together TV will need to stop broadcasting on that slot - Together TV are playing nothing on a week by week deal.
*A new 24 hour slot is free on COM4/SDN - Quest old slot for a broadcaster to launch / move to COM4/SDN on Freeview.
*BBC B Mux may have room to add up to two SD Channels.

By April 2023:
*BBC ONE East will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE East Yorkshire and Lincolnshire will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE London will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE East Midlands will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE North East of England and Cumbria will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE North West will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE South will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE South East will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE South West will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE West will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE West Midlands will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC ONE Yorkshire will close and become known as BBC One on Freeview Channel 1.
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE East HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101. (East of England, Cambridgeshire, Northamptonshire, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire and parts of Buckinghamshire areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE East Yorkshire and Lincolnshire HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (East Yorkshire and Lincolnshire areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE London HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (Greater London, Lots of Surrey, Parts of Essex, Parts Of Bedfordshire, Parts Of Buckinghamshire, Parts of Kent, Parts of Hertfordshire and Parts of West Sussex areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE East Midlands HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (East Midlands of England areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE North East of England and Cumbria HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (North East of England and Cumbria areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE North West HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (North West of England areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE South HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (Oxfordshire & Parts of Wiltshire, Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire and South of England areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE South East HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (Kent and East Sussex areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE South West HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (South West of England areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE West HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (West of England areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE West Midlands HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (West Midlands of England areas only).
*BBC One HD will close and rebrand as BBC ONE Yorkshire HD and launch on Freeview Channel 101 (Yorkshire and North Midlands areas only).-BBC ONE HD relaunches on Freeview Channel 106.

All information is right as of January 5th.

Media Boy UK 05-01-2023 22:20

Re: Freeview changes
 
DS Forum is reporting that E4 in Wales has moved from SDN to D3&4.

So look like GREAT! movies action is set to launch on Freeview in Wales.

cheekyangus 06-01-2023 08:32

Re: Freeview changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36143223)
DS Forum is reporting that E4 in Wales has moved from SDN to D3&4.

So look like GREAT! movies action is set to launch on Freeview in Wales.

a516digital on Twitter is saying it's because they've squeezed in a 13th video stream. https://twitter.com/a516digital/stat...45023340306432

Showing on DigitalBitRate website apparently.

Media Boy UK 06-01-2023 15:19

Re: Freeview changes
 
Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused.

24 hours slots:
-New slot free on D3&4 (Not in Wales)
-Old Create and Craft Extra (Where Together TV/RealityXtra 2 broadcast) slot on COM4
-Old Quest slot on COM4

Part time slots:
-Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only)

Slots information right as of January 6th.

What’s changing soon on Freeview:

Soon:
*D3&4 has added room to launch a new 24 hour broadcasting channel outside Wales.
*SDN still got TWO 24 hour slots free for a broadcasters to launch / move to COM4 on Freeview - But SDN are letting use one of them right now by Together TV and RealityXtra 2.

ANY BROADCASTER WANT TO LAUNCH ON FREEVIEW?
*D3&4 has added room to launch a new 24 hour broadcasting channel outside Wales.
*Together TV will need to stop broadcasting on that slot - Together TV are playing nothing on a week by week deal.
*A new 24 hour slot is free on COM4/SDN - Quest old slot for a broadcaster to launch / move to COM4/SDN on Freeview.
*BBC B Mux may have room to add up to two SD Channels.

All information is right as of January 6th.

---------- Post added at 15:19 ---------- Previous post was at 13:37 ----------

I think the following may happen in 2023 on Freeview.

*GREAT! movies action will launch in Wales
*S4C may move to BBC A using the slot that BBC use to broadcast BBC Scotland in Scotland
*With E4 Extra moving or 4Music relaunch on Freeview using that new D3&4 slot

cheekyangus 06-01-2023 16:12

Re: Freeview changes
 
MB there's been no indication that the changes to the Welsh D3&4/PSB2 multiplex have been applied anywhere else. The changes to BBCA/PSB1 for BBC Scotland were eventually applied everywhere, but the key word is "eventually". And it doesn't mean the same will happen in this new circumstance. They may have decided to only apply it to Wales-serving D3&4 transmitters in this instance.

Media Boy UK 07-01-2023 23:28

Re: Freeview changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36143280)
MB there's been no indication that the changes to the Welsh D3&4/PSB2 multiplex have been applied anywhere else. The changes to BBCA/PSB1 for BBC Scotland were eventually applied everywhere, but the key word is "eventually". And it doesn't mean the same will happen in this new circumstance. They may have decided to only apply it to Wales-serving D3&4 transmitters in this instance.

Sorry for getting back early but I just found where ITV/Channel 4 found the room to add E4 in Wales to D3/4:

It was as followed:
Look like D3&4 has only cut some channels Mb/s to add E4 in Wales on D3&4 so they CAN launch a UK Wide channel outside Wales if they wanted to.

Wales
PID null: 1.5Mb/s
DATAS & Audios: 4.8Mb/s
Channel 5: 1.8Mb/s
E4 +1: 1.2Mb/s
SC4: 1.5Mb/s
Channel 4 +1: 1.4Mb/s
E4: 1.5Mb/s
More4: 1.2Mb/s
Film4: 1.5Mb/s
Channel 4: 1.6Mb/s
ITV1 +1: 1.3Mb/s
ITV4: 1.7Mb/s
ITV2: 1.2Mb/s
ITV3: 1.1Mb/s
ITV1: 1.8Mb/s

London.
PID null: 0.5Mbs
DATAS & Audios: 4.3Mbs
Channel 5: 1.4Mbs
E4 +1: 1.6Mbs
Channel 4 +1: 1.4Mbs
E4: 1.9Mbs
More4: 1.5Mbs
Film4: 1.8Mbs
Channel 4: 1.8Mbs
ITV1 +1: 1.5Mbs
ITV4: 2.0Mbs
ITV2: 1.3Mbs
ITV3: 1.3Mbs
ITV1: 1.7Mbs

So to find the room to have E4 and it audio on D3&4 you will see from the list Mb/s has been cut from E4 +1, More4, Film4, Channel 4, ITV1 +1, ITV4, ITV2 and ITV3:

When you take away the list Mb/s in Wales it comes to 2.0Mb/s needed to broadcast E4 and it audio.

Wales > London. (Wales has lost/gain)

*PID null: 1.5Mb/s > 0.5Mbs (+1.0Mb/s)

*DATAS & Audios: 4.8Mb/s > 4.3Mbs (+0.5Mb/s)

*Channel 5: 1.8Mb/s > 1.4Mbs (+0.4Mb/s)

*E4 +1: 1.2Mb/s > 1.6Mbs (-0.4Mb/s)

*SC4: 1.5Mb/s
*Channel 4 +1: 1.4Mb/s > 1.4Mbs

*E4: 1.5Mb/s > 1.9Mbs (-0.4Mb/s)

*More4: 1.2Mb/s > 1.5Mbs (-0.3Mb/s)

*Film4: 1.5Mb/s > 1.8Mbs (-0.3Mb/s)

Channel 4: 1.6Mb/s > 1.8Mbs (-0.2Mb/s)

*ITV1 +1: 1.3Mb/s > 1.5Mbs (-0.2Mb/s)

*ITV4: 1.7Mb/s > 2.0Mbs (-0.3Mb/s)

*ITV2: 1.2Mb/s > 1.3Mbs (-0.1Mb/s)

*ITV3: 1.1Mb/s > 1.3Mbs (-0.2Mb/s)

*ITV1: 1.8Mb/s > 1.7Mbs (+0.1Mb/s)

Media Boy UK 13-01-2023 16:25

Re: Freeview changes
 
Next week Freeview changes:

Jan. 17th:
*BBC One Oxford closes - sub region absorbed into BBC One South
*BBC One East W closes - sub region absorbed into BBC One East (East)
*​BBC One East (East) changes name to BBC One East following the BBC One East (West) closure

Media Boy UK 20-01-2023 18:13

Re: Freeview changes
 
DS Forum is reporting Since January 19th new space has become available on the D3&4 mux outside of Wales.

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...ment_102221910

https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...live=9&lang=en

cheekyangus 20-01-2023 23:26

Re: Freeview changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36144013)
DS Forum is reporting Since January 19th new space has become available on the D3&4 mux outside of Wales.

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...ment_102221910

https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...live=9&lang=en

I was going to post this earlier but the forum wasn't loading for me.

I noticed it on a local version of the mux on DigitalBitRate the other day and a516digital is saying it's elsewhere too.

https://twitter.com/a516digital/stat...02518334296065

It doesn't mean everyone outside Wales is getting a new channel on this multiplex as the BBC did the same on PSB1 (aka BBCA) when they made space for the BBC Scotland channel. It's sat empty everywhere else.

Media Boy UK 21-01-2023 01:08

Re: Freeview changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36144044)
I was going to post this earlier but the forum wasn't loading for me.

I noticed it on a local version of the mux on DigitalBitRate the other day and a516digital is saying it's elsewhere too.

https://twitter.com/a516digital/stat...02518334296065

It doesn't mean everyone outside Wales is getting a new channel on this multiplex as the BBC did the same on PSB1 (aka BBCA) when they made space for the BBC Scotland channel. It's sat empty everywhere else.

My Sources has reveal to me that D3&4 was upgraded on January 6th in Scotland.

And London was one of the last areas to be upgraded.

Media Boy UK 21-01-2023 23:32

Re: Freeview changes
 
What may launch on the D3&4 on that new slot outside Wales:

May launch:
1) ITVBe - ITVBe do broadcast on SDN but do broadcast on D3&4 in Channel Islands.
2) E4 Extra - from COM5
3) Film4 +1 - from COM5
4) 4Seven - from COM5
5) 4Music - Relaunch
6) More4 +1 - Relaunch

Will not move:
1) CITV do broadcast on ITVs SDN
2) ITV2+1 do broadcast on ITVs SDN
3) ITV3+1 do broadcast on ITVs SDN but may move to D3&4 and becomes fulltime
4) ITV4+1 do broadcast on ITVs SDN but may move to ITV3+1 old slot starting at 9pm
5) ITVBe+1 do broadcast on ITVs SDN

cheekyangus 22-01-2023 14:02

Re: Freeview changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36144129)
What may launch on the D3&4 on that new slot outside Wales:

May launch:
1) ITVBe - ITVBe do broadcast on SDN but do broadcast on D3&4 in Channel Islands.
2) E4 Extra - from COM5
3) Film4 +1 - from COM5
4) 4Seven - from COM5
5) 4Music - Relaunch
6) More4 +1 - Relaunch

Will not move:
1) CITV do broadcast on ITVs SDN
2) ITV2+1 do broadcast on ITVs SDN
3) ITV3+1 do broadcast on ITVs SDN but may move to D3&4 and becomes fulltime
4) ITV4+1 do broadcast on ITVs SDN but may move to ITV3+1 old slot starting at 9pm
5) ITVBe+1 do broadcast on ITVs SDN

If space is used outside Wales it will be for something non-core as otherwise there would be another Wales anomaly for a core service.

So it would likely be ITV4+1 since it onl has a very short and useless overnight allocation. ITV3+1 has a schedule that matches nicely with CITV which it shares stream with so I can't see ITV3+1 taking it.

If a C4 channel takes it it'll be a +1 or 4Seven since the latter is basically a timeshift in another guise.

I don't think any service will use it having said all that. It'll be like what happened with BBCA/PSB1 all over again.

Media Boy UK 22-01-2023 23:25

Re: Freeview changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36144151)
If space is used outside Wales it will be for something non-core as otherwise there would be another Wales anomaly for a core service.

So it would likely be ITV4+1 since it onl has a very short and useless overnight allocation. ITV3+1 has a schedule that matches nicely with CITV which it shares stream with so I can't see ITV3+1 taking it.

If a C4 channel takes it it'll be a +1 or 4Seven since the latter is basically a timeshift in another guise.

I don't think any service will use it having said all that. It'll be like what happened with BBCA/PSB1 all over again.

I still feel S4C may move over to BBC A sometime this year due to the following:

A) Since April 2013 a funding for S4C was transferred to the BBC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S4C_Authority

B) The BBC is not using the broadcasting slot outside Scotland [Slot being use in Scotland for BBC Scotland Channel).
C) S4C is on BBC iPlayer
D) S4C HD to timeshare with CBBC HD in Wales on Freeview.


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