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this rag is even petitioning for "a peoples vote" why? because in the referendum the wrong people won . i wouldn't wipe my backside on it if was desperate . |
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The worst part of it is that the EU are behaving nastily towards us. Why would we want to be in their club given they've shown their true colours?
The Remainers on this thread have answered the above question. Although the Remainers haven't conceded that the EU is behaving nastily, they know it but feel that protection of our economy is more important than getting away from an EU that treats us so badly. The EU logically says that it is we who decided to leave, so it is up to us to come up with relationship proposals that suit the EU. Nothing we propose that they perceive as being to our advantage will ever suit the EU. Then we have a useless guvmin that couldn't get to grips with this day 1 reality. Fox and co had convinced themselves that a trade agreement with the EU would be a doddle; they'd called the EU names for years but never took steps in power to forestall the eventuality we are now facing. As March approaches, appraisals of the type made above will grow in frequency and assertiveness and public unrest will grow. A bubble then has to burst. First it is likely to be the Conservative Party although that can be avoided by a change of leader. Second, public unrest could be assuaged by a second referendum which I'm now certain will lead to a Remain decision by a larger than 52/48 ratio. As I've said before, I don't mind remaining in the EU provided that we are not bound by "ever closer union" and we can use our picador sticks on them to get France's protective mantle lifted; to get Germany's illegal 8% surplus reduced to 3%; stay out of the Euro. But as I'm not allowed to call the Brussels lot "turds" I can only lament as to how we got to this stage and how let down we are by the Guvmin. |
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Incidentally, we have already been in discussions with other countries to secure trade deals after we leave the EU. I should also remind you that we don't need trade deals in order to trade. |
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If one member of the EMA approves a drug, it is approved across the whole EU. It’s a nice system that works well for the industry and the consumer. The big question is tha will we accept EMA approved drugs post Brexit? What about new drugs? A large number of bio.ogicals are made in Ireland and approved by the Irish regulatory bodies. Do we trust the going forward? If yes, what happens if something goes wrong, who is liable? What if there is a disagreement on the regulatory approaches? If no, we may need to approve all EMA approved drugs to MHRA standards going forward. It’s a tough one! Do we trust a foreign drug agency to protect the health of British patients. In a WTO situation, if we accept EMA standards, we may need to accept any third party standards. Regulated industries are terrified about this at present. See also aviation as an example... |
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There are so many people, it seems, that appear to have forgotten that we did have a (very successful) history before the EU! ---------- Post added at 19:09 ---------- Previous post was at 19:07 ---------- Quote:
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You were rather convinced that the Chequers Plan would fly. At least that's my interpretation of your words when replying to Remainers (and others) who were trashing it. Now that the EU has trashed the key component (Customs) what is your next forecast as to what will happen? |
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Either scenario is OK by me. |
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Now it seems you are optimistic that the EU will sort of come to its senses and allow us to administer their customs duty collection. Is that your position? |
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As for the Millennium Bug if we hadn't of made preparations and anticipated the problem we would have been in trouble. But we made the necessary adjustments. We've made no preparations for No Deal because this Government is useless and unable to do much because of it's weak position. ('strong and stable' LMAO ! ) |
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