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pip08456 13-07-2019 22:16

Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables
 
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Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 36002438)
The public interest was to hear what someone close to the US administration thought about Trump in an unfiltered way! Trump would have you believe the administration is a well oiled machine! This shows ( if we didn’t know it already) that it isn’t! Throwing light into shade is in the public interest!

If you are happy with the public interest being served rather than the national interest then fair enough, let's just scrap the official secrets act and no longer have the foreign office receive truthful report from ambassadors to the countries we deal with.

Mobes 13-07-2019 22:32

Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables
 
I didnt say i was more happy with it. I merely pointed out that it was in the 'public interest but this argument is just gas lighting. The real issue is Johnson not backing him and Trump getting his way.

1andrew1 13-07-2019 22:47

Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36002428)
If the leak was in the public interest there would be no problem.

Mobes is right. If BoJo had been supportive of the ambassador on the ITV debate, he would probably have remained in place.

Pierre 13-07-2019 23:04

Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 36002438)
The public interest was to hear what someone close to the US administration thought about Trump in an unfiltered way! Trump would have you believe the administration is a well oiled machine! This shows ( if we didn’t know it already) that it isn’t! Throwing light into shade is in the public interest!

It’s not in the public, or nations, interest if it damages relations with our closest and most powerful ally.

pip08456 13-07-2019 23:05

Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36002462)
Mobes is right. If BoJo had been supportive of the ambassador on the ITV debate, he would probably have remained in place.

I doubt it very much. Following the leak he became person non grata at the White House.

It was due to the leak his position became untenable and not just with the White House.

Julian 13-07-2019 23:14

Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36002462)
Mobes is right. If BoJo had been supportive of the ambassador on the ITV debate, he would probably have remained in place.

Until the end of the year when he was leaving anyway? ;)

ianch99 13-07-2019 23:26

Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables
 
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Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 36002461)
I didnt say i was more happy with it. I merely pointed out that it was in the 'public interest but this argument is just gas lighting. The real issue is Johnson not backing him and Trump getting his way.

This is the real point here. Trump will think he now has the upper hand: he said to the UK "jump", and we said "how high?" The UK is now the vassal state in this relationship .. enjoy .. :)

Chlorinated chicken anyone?

Mobes 13-07-2019 23:29

Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables
 
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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36002468)
Until the end of the year when he was leaving anyway? ;)

Way to go missing the point lol

Julian 13-07-2019 23:35

Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables
 
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Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 36002474)
Way to go missing the point lol

Why did he send an email containing those flippant opinions?

Who did he send it to?

For someone supposedly a top ambassador he perhaps should have kept his facebook thoughts to himself. ;)

Having said that don't rule out him having leaked it himself........

Mobes 13-07-2019 23:38

Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables
 
A) the point of those confidential memos is to give our Govt unfiltered views about the relative countries government . The US ambassador would send similar memos.
B) He was hacked and or leaked.
C) Try and keep up.

pip08456 13-07-2019 23:47

Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables
 
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Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 36002478)
A) the point of those confidential memos is to give our Govt unfiltered views about the relative countries government . The US ambassador would send similar memos.
B) He was hacked and or leaked.
C) Try and keep up.

Surely you mean the Public Interest memos?

Mobes 13-07-2019 23:55

Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables
 
Things can be both confidential AND in the public interest...nice try though :)

denphone 14-07-2019 05:57

Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables
 
The suspect behind the leak of confidential memos from Britain’s Washington ambassador has been identified, the Sunday Times newspaper has reported.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ntified-report

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“They think they know who did the leaking,” an unnamed government source told the paper. “It’s now a case of building a case that will stand up in court. It was someone with access to historical files. They went in and grabbed a range of material. It was quite crude.”

Angua 14-07-2019 07:46

Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36002494)
The suspect behind the leak of confidential memos from Britain’s Washington ambassador has been identified, the Sunday Times newspaper has reported.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ntified-report

For those who may not be aware of the latest Brexit couple.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/950231...-leak-scandal/

denphone 14-07-2019 08:15

Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables
 
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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 36002495)
For those who may not be aware of the latest Brexit couple.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/950231...-leak-scandal/

The link does not work Angua.


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